The Gr8 Keeper Deb8

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Re: The Great Keeper Deb8

by harryroyal » 18 Sep 2012 20:49

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adam "prima donna" federici


Have you even read this thread!

Yes, Federici, from the reactions of his family, has had a tantrum because he's been dropped. Have you read this thread?

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Re: The Great Keeper Deb8

by sandman » 18 Sep 2012 20:54

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robbieroyal I'm really surprised Feds has the nerve to kick off like this, as BM says no one is un-droppable.

This whole situation has got well out of hand....

Judging by what AMc is saying Brian has promised him a decent run in the side.


As mentioned, he did it before when he didn't get his place back when he returned from injury and McDermott stuck with McCarthy, who by that point was playing well and should have felt very hard done by when he was benched to keep the peace. Brian caved in, clear and simple, but this time he needs to stand his ground. Managing in the Premiership is a different ball game altogether. If you don't stamp your authority on the dressing room, you will lose them, and it will all fall apart.

For now, Feds deserves to be No.2 and McCarthy has earned the right to start. It's now up to Alex to keep the shirt, and Adam to work hard to get another chance. Failing that, January wont be far away and the arrogant little twat can leave. We have Stuart Taylor, more than suitable if called upon, Alex McCarthy and the impressive Mikkel Andersen all vying for the shirt. It's probably our strongest position, so more fool Adam Federici for getting way above his station.


McCarthy leaked goals when he was playing in that little run including 3 goals against Forest, Palace and a soon to be relegated Sheffield United and it was only because of Long hitting a purple patch and the rest of our attack that we won so many games.

Federici is acknowledged as being the first into training everyday and has always worked hard and that is why he got a contract in the first place because he earned it. McCarthy he has only played 14 times for Reading hasn't earned anything his last loan spell was awful and he showed a lack of respect for Ipswich Town Football Club and their fans during that spell. If you want to talk about arrogant tw@ts then McCarthy fits that description nicely as he's talking about being picked for England just because he started one PL game (a game in which his carelessness with his distribution should have resulted in more Tottenham goals). Still at least Hodgson knows he can find Jermaine Defoe with a pass.

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Re: The Great Keeper Deb8

by Simon's Church » 18 Sep 2012 21:06



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Re: The Great Keeper Deb8

by TBM » 18 Sep 2012 21:08

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facaldaqui Have a heart. We've no evidence, other than tweets by his women, that he is getting above his station; certainly we have no evidence that he has rebelled against Brian in any way.


:?:



I dont understand the photo - what's he saying with it?!

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Re: The Great Keeper Deb8

by USA_Loyal_Royal » 18 Sep 2012 21:15

innocent until proven guilty. if he did rebel and not want to sit on the bench, screw him, we'll get along well enough without him. we dont need arrogant pricks ruining the team spirit mcdermott has been trying to build. we have suitable backups.


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Re: The Great Keeper Deb8

by RoyalBlue » 18 Sep 2012 22:26

blueroyals Seeing how last time we were in the PL we were relegated on goal difference, how, after conceding 5 goals in 3 games (3 of which being complete fcuk ups on his part) can Federici be so selfish to demand that his error-prone ass continue to be played in goal?


Oh, and of course, The Boy Wonder McCarthy was completely error free on Sunday! :lol: :lol: Added to that, Spurs must have loved having him as a 12th man the way he repeatedly kicked/handed possession straight back to them!

USA_Loyal_Royal innocent until proven guilty. if he did rebel and not want to sit on the bench, screw him, we'll get along well enough without him. we dont need arrogant pricks ruining the team spirit mcdermott has been trying to build. we have suitable backups.


Saint Brian isn't coming out of this too good either. At best he has been telling half truths and at worst he gave McCarthy the inside story regarding the true reason for his call up, only for the latter to blab his mouth off to Jonny Fordham (rather worse IMO than a girlfriend using Twitter to state the bleedin obvious i.e. she isn't happy with the way the club have treated her boyfriend - did anyone really expect her to feel any different?!). Not the best way of engendering a good team spirit.

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Re: The Great Keeper Deb8

by sandman » 18 Sep 2012 23:04

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Spot on

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Re: The Great Keeper Deb8

by TBM » 18 Sep 2012 23:17

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You do know Johnny has to run any story he prints via the club first

In fact what the club has done is very clever, getting McCarthy to say it was a tactical decision thus making Feds look like he's thrown his toys out of his pram. I bet you any money had Federici accepted the decision and his missus kept quiet then this McCarthy interview would never have happened.

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Re: The Great Keeper Deb8

by sandman » 18 Sep 2012 23:30

The club didn't make McCarthy say anything. McDermott lied and was forced to come clean because McCarthy was too thick and unprofessional to keep his mouth shut.
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Re: The Great Keeper Deb8

by RoyallyFcuked » 19 Sep 2012 00:19

sandman
RoyallyFcuked What a joke. One thing is for sure, our club wont tolerate that. Federici needs to man up and accept the decision, he has clearly been dropped for a good reason. Why not give McCarthy a chance, he has proved he is at Feds level, if not better. I remember when he got a run in the team when we went on the first winning streak (2010-11 season) he was superb. He was shakey against Spurs for obvious reasons, he needs a few games. He was very close to keeping out Defoe's opener as well. If this is the last we see of Federici at Reading then McCarthy should be the only choice we have. I dont ever want to see Stuart "Ive sat on the bench for most of my career and i'm happy to keep doing so" Taylor in a Reading shirt.


He hasn't proven he's at Feds level at all, how many Championship medals has he won? And don't say last season because they might as well have give the fans a medal because we had more involvement than McCarthy (well maybe not the west stand). McCarthy has had 14 appearances in a Reading shirt that does not prove he is at Federici's level at all. When he got a run in the team he conceded 3 at Palace, 3 at Forest he also conceded 2 against a very poor Middlesborough side and that's not even mentioning the 3 he conceded against a Sheffield United team that were relegated the following week.


I remember at the time, everyone was saying how good McCarthy had been playing and what a bright young talented keeper he was. I was at that Forest game (one of the best, if not the best match ive ever been to) and despite conceding 3 goals McCarthy played well. Most of goals in the other games you mentioned where not McCarthy's fault, they were down to poor defending if anything. How many goals a keeper concedes in a match often doesnt reflect how well they played.....

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Re: The Great Keeper Deb8

by RoyallyFcuked » 19 Sep 2012 00:27

Big Foot We're having a party when Fedders leaves, we're having a party when Fedders leaves


Tail on the donkey when Fedders leaves, tail on the donkey when Fedders leaves

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Re: The Great Keeper Deb8

by Platypuss » 19 Sep 2012 07:42

With Ideal on the McCarthy side and RoyalBlue on the Federici side, there is surely only one rational way forward.

Taylor it is then.

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Re: The Great Keeper Deb8

by TBM » 19 Sep 2012 08:49

sandman The club didn't make McCarthy say anything. McDermott lied and was forced to come clean because McCarthy was too thick and unprofessional to keep his mouth shut.


lol considering the amount of shit you write on this forum, I don't think I'll take your word for it


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Re: The Great Keeper Deb8

by Snowball » 19 Sep 2012 09:09

I don't get this BS some of you are spouting about Brian McDermott lying
or changing his tune.

Federici dropped out of the Oz game injured.

He has clearly been carrying an injury/niggle of some sort, it was mentioned by someone on this board
who watched him and saw "uncomfortable" during the warm up for the Stoke game.

The first time McDermott spoke about Feds not playing he was clearly offered the chance
to "so with" Dellor's prompt (injury) and was very clear that MO he was dropped for tactical reasons.

He THEN added that there were niggling injury issues that were ongoing and that the physio
disagreed with Feds belief that he could play with them. McD actually said (paraphrasing)
"No, Adam felt he could play"


In other words

Feds is not 100% physically fit, but IN HIS OPINION he was fit enough to play.

The physio believed/believes Feds SHOULDN'T play.

The manager knows all is not rosy (mistakes etc and presumably more time on the treatment table)

Even when given the "easy option" ("Yes, he's injured") he chose not to.




Too bad not a lot of HobNobbers can work out that two things can happen at the same time

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Re: The Great Keeper Deb8

by Lacoste » 19 Sep 2012 09:10

Fcuk off Fedders, wanted to leave and made no secret of it until the Russians came in and we got promoted - now you've been found out.

Fcuk off and take your stupid bint with you.
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Re: The Great Keeper Deb8

by Vision » 19 Sep 2012 09:10

Some wild assumptions on top of the weird conclusions being made on this thread. So I'll just add my own...

If I'm Federici I'd have a bit of the hump as well.

He missed a chunk of pre-season because of this injury yet his manager still thought he was good enough to start the season.
He makes a couple of uncharacteristic errors,perhaps related to this injury and lack of match practice.
We have a 25 day break between games, during which time he's pulled out of an International match while he's pretty close to making a claim to be his country's 1st choice keeper to recuperate.
Then the day before the next game his manager tells him he needs to recuperate despite the fact that the player knows he's been playing through this injury and its no worse now than it was at the beginning of the season.
The manager then muddies the issue by intimating that its all related to the injury in public whilst telling others it's "tactical". The latter detail subsequently used by his replacement to deliver something of a public smackdown.
He has a bit of a whinge to his missus about his work situation (which most of us do) and his missus and sister inadvisedly go public with their thoughts on the matter
Fans seem to take some sort of perverse delight in this outcome and assume he's refused to sit on the bench (why would you be expected to sit on the bench if you've been told you need to recuperate and another keeper has clearly been brought into the club to fulfill bench duties) presumably because he happened to say he wanted to play at the top level during an interview 18 months earlier.

FWIW I'm happy for McCarthy to play as since I'm not that bothered about the whole Premier League shebang I'm happier seeing Academy graduates in the side.

However either McD made an error of judgement in playing Federici at the start of the season whilst injured (presumably because he didn't think McCarthy was ready yet to play at the top level) or he's decided that his original No1 is a basket case after just 2 league games and that all of a sudden McCarthy is ready!

Either way this isn't McD's finest hour any more than it is Federici's.

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Re: The Great Keeper Deb8

by loyalroyal4life » 19 Sep 2012 09:14

we might be able to get a couple of mill for him

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Re: The Great Keeper Deb8

by Big Foot » 19 Sep 2012 09:18

Lacoste Fcuk off Fedders, wanted to leave and made no secret of it until the Russians came in and we got promoted - now you've been found out.

Fcuk off and take your stupid bint with you.

agreed

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Re: The Great Keeper Deb8

by sandman » 19 Sep 2012 09:20

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sandman The club didn't make McCarthy say anything. McDermott lied and was forced to come clean because McCarthy was too thick and unprofessional to keep his mouth shut.


lol considering the amount of shit you write on this forum, I don't think I'll take your word for it


A compliment coming from you. Btw when's Benzema signing for Arsenal?

If McDermott originally says the injury is main the reason and then McCarthy says something different a few minutes later on the same radio show leading McDermott to contradict himself a day or two later then it's obvious McCarthy has said something he shouldn't.

Even a ignoramus like yourself should be able to work that out.

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Re: The Great Keeper Deb8

by TBM » 19 Sep 2012 09:22

Sorry I upset you for posting a story I read in the paper - about 2 years ago :|

Honestly didnt mean to make you cry

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