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Re: Rumour - Danny Shittu on loan

by rg6royal » 08 Feb 2009 21:24

Bikey >>>> Doobs

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by winchester_royal » 08 Feb 2009 21:45

rg6royal Bikey >>>> Doobs


Bikey >>>>>>>>>> Doobs >>>>>>>> Any other Championship defender.

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Re: Rumour - Danny Shittu on loan

by Geekins » 09 Feb 2009 00:11

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rg6royal Bikey >>>> Doobs


Bikey >>>>>>>>>> Doobs >>>>>>>> Any other Championship defender.


>>>>>>>My Mum >>>>>>>> My Nan >>>>>>> Shittu >>>>>>> Sonko

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Re: Rumour - Danny Shittu on loan

by southsideroyal » 09 Feb 2009 04:50

Is Bikey still not fully back from injury?

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Re: Rumour - Danny Shittu on loan

by The Real Sandhurst Royal » 09 Feb 2009 09:54

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NOTW papertalk... Why do we want Shittu when we have Pearce who continues to put in man if the match performances.

You ever heard of strength in depth? Something we currently lack in defence.


We have cover with Bikey and then there is Cisse who can play the centre back role... Why bring Shittu in (if it's true ) on a big salary for a loan period, remember the Ferdinand / Keown fiasco?


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Re: Rumour - Danny Shittu on loan

by Sun Tzu » 09 Feb 2009 10:23

I don't think Shittu is on a par in any sense with Keown and Ferdinand !

He's not going to be on huge wages, he's not a big name and he's a decent Championship footballer.

Would be OK cover for us, and I'm not convinced this one still won;t happen....

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Re: Rumour - Danny Shittu on loan

by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe » 09 Feb 2009 11:40

Shittu is better than Pearce, Coppell doesn't want to play Bikey. Shittu would not be cover and would improve our starting 11.

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Re: Rumour - Danny Shittu on loan

by Alan Partridge » 09 Feb 2009 12:04

Smoking Kills Dancing Doe Shittu is better than Pearce, Coppell doesn't want to play Bikey. Shittu would not be cover and would improve our starting 11.


Ive always thought like Duberry he's a very good out and out defender but his distribution is Sonko esque. I can't see Duberry and Shittu being the most graceful partnership!! :lol:

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Re: Rumour - Danny Shittu on loan

by specialjon » 09 Feb 2009 13:08

Would be complete waste of time and money. We need creativity in midfield, we've got 6 possible center backs.


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Re: Rumour - Danny Shittu on loan

by Sun Tzu » 09 Feb 2009 13:13

specialjon Would be complete waste of time and money. We need creativity in midfield, we've got 6 possible center backs.


Ivar
Duberry
Pearce
Bikey
Cisse
Gunnarsson
Murty
Sodje
Bennett

That's 9 without starting to call up the youth players !
But you can rule out 7 of them currently for various reasons.
Adding a decent player as cover would be no bad thing, hardly expensive and certainly wouldn't involve much time.

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Re: Rumour - Danny Shittu on loan

by specialjon » 09 Feb 2009 13:48

It would take some time and some money, which would be wasted.

Bikey, Pearce, Ivar, Cisse, Doobs and Bryn, are all decent options at center back. Only Ivar is unavailable, and Bikey is on his way back. So that leaves us with 4 fit cb's and 1 nearly it cb.......

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by Sun Tzu » 09 Feb 2009 13:52

specialjon It would take some time and some money, which would be wasted.

Bikey, Pearce, Ivar, Cisse, Doobs and Bryn, are all decent options at center back. Only Ivar is unavailable, and Bikey is on his way back. So that leaves us with 4 fit cb's and 1 nearly it cb.......


Cisse is currently busy playing centre midfield for us, Bikey has been out of the picture for ages for various reasons and Gunnarsson is fine as a stop gap but I wouldn't play him there from choice. So Duberry does his hamstring in training and Bikey gets sent off against Bristol City and then where are we for 3 matches ?

So for the sake of 5 minutes on the phone and 4 months wages we struggle by ?

That would be a disgrace....

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Re: Rumour - Danny Shittu on loan

by specialjon » 09 Feb 2009 14:01

Indeed then get someone in on loan, but with the current situation we're fine at centre back. If you work through those scenarios in every postion on the pitch we'd have to have a squad of nearly 50 players......


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by Sun Tzu » 09 Feb 2009 14:16

specialjon Indeed then get someone in on loan, but with the current situation we're fine at centre back. If you work through those scenarios in every postion on the pitch we'd have to have a squad of nearly 50 players......


If you reckon on us needing 4 fit centre backs competing for places then we're currently one short, and may be so for the rest of the season. A loan signing would fill the Ivar shaped hole we have.

Bringing in a replacement before we need one is just good planning. I don't think there are any other positions that we lack cover in and which require a pretty specialist sort of player. I don't think we could play Jay Tabb in central defence....

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Re: Rumour - Danny Shittu on loan

by Wycombe Royal » 09 Feb 2009 14:18

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specialjon If you reckon on us needing 4 fit centre backs competing for places then we're currently one short, and may be so for the rest of the season. A loan signing would fill the Ivar shaped hole we have.

Doobs
Pearce
Bikey
Cisse
Gunnarsson

I make that 5 who can play centre back, and although those last two may prefer central midfield they still make very good Championship central defenders. It is not an area we need to spend money on......

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Re: Rumour - Danny Shittu on loan

by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe » 09 Feb 2009 14:23

But if Coppell thinks Shittu is better than those players then it is an area to spend money on.

What the worst that could happen? Shittu turns out to be crap? Don't play him, he causes problems? You send him back.

Positive signings can take a club forward, just cause it didn't work years ago with Ferdinand and Keown doesn't mean that it won't now....

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by Sun Tzu » 09 Feb 2009 14:24

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specialjon If you reckon on us needing 4 fit centre backs competing for places then we're currently one short, and may be so for the rest of the season. A loan signing would fill the Ivar shaped hole we have.

Doobs
Pearce
Bikey
Cisse
Gunnarsson

I make that 5 who can play centre back, and although those last two may prefer central midfield they still make very good Championship central defenders. It is not an area we need to spend money on......


Take out Bikey and your happy to go with 2 centre backs ?
An option of weakening the midfield to fill the back is not great and as has been mentioned Gunnarsson always does a good job in an emergency but I wouldn't him there on a regular basis....

I wouldn't buy a new centre back but get a very good player on a loan and you just cover a crucial position.

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Re: Rumour - Danny Shittu on loan

by Wycombe Royal » 09 Feb 2009 14:50

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Pearce
Bikey
Cisse
Gunnarsson

I make that 5 who can play centre back, and although those last two may prefer central midfield they still make very good Championship central defenders. It is not an area we need to spend money on......


Take out Bikey and your happy to go with 2 centre backs ?
An option of weakening the midfield to fill the back is not great and as has been mentioned Gunnarsson always does a good job in an emergency but I wouldn't him there on a regular basis....

I wouldn't buy a new centre back but get a very good player on a loan and you just cover a crucial position.

Take out Bikey and we still have 4 very good centre backs.

As for weakening the midfield, I don't agree. We have plenty of players who can there so taking out Cisse from it would not be a disaster.

I think bringing in another centre back could be more disruptive as it would more than likely be someone who is only going out on loan to get first team matches. What sort of a signal would that send to someone like Pearce who has done nothing wrong since coming in to the team and would probably be the one to make way........

We can make emergency loans up to the 2nd Thursday of March so it is hardly a pressing issue at the moment.

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Re: Rumour - Danny Shittu on loan

by Sun Tzu » 09 Feb 2009 14:55

Wycombe Royal Take out Bikey and we still have 4 very good centre backs.


Not really. We'd have 2 very good centre backs and a couple who would fill in very well for the odd game.

Wycombe Royal As for weakening the midfield, I don't agree. We have plenty of players who can there so taking out Cisse from it would not be a disaster.

Coppell would seem to disgree as he picks Cisse above any others. I'm not too sure who would fill his role as well - Karacan ?

Wycombe Royal I think bringing in another centre back could be more disruptive as it would more than likely be someone who is only going out on loan to get first team matches. What sort of a signal would that send to someone like Pearce who has done nothing wrong since coming in to the team and would probably be the one to make way........


Well we'd bring the player in on our terms. The situation simply wouldn't happen.

Wycombe Royal We can make emergency loans up to the 2nd Thursday of March so it is hardly a pressing issue at the moment.

Indeed, unless we lose a player before then ! Or unless the right deal is available sooner.
It's no big deal, just an area where if the right player was available in a deal that suited us I think it would make sense. Like signing Harding made sense.

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Re: Rumour - Danny Shittu on loan

by Wycombe Royal » 09 Feb 2009 15:03

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Wycombe Royal Take out Bikey and we still have 4 very good centre backs.


Not really. We'd have 2 very good centre backs and a couple who would fill in very well for the odd game.

THose two can easily fill in for more than the odd game, and both have played centre back for parts of their career.

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Wycombe Royal As for weakening the midfield, I don't agree. We have plenty of players who can there so taking out Cisse from it would not be a disaster.

Coppell would seem to disgree as he picks Cisse above any others. I'm not too sure who would fill his role as well - Karacan ?

Karacan, Tabb, Matejovsky. The player doesn't have to be like-for-like. It isn't as if Harper and Cisse are a world beating partnership.

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Wycombe Royal I think bringing in another centre back could be more disruptive as it would more than likely be someone who is only going out on loan to get first team matches. What sort of a signal would that send to someone like Pearce who has done nothing wrong since coming in to the team and would probably be the one to make way........


Well we'd bring the player in on our terms. The situation simply wouldn't happen.

Exactly and therefore the player would not be of great quality. We certainly couldn't attract anyone like Shittu to the club if they are only coming in to provide cover in the squad.

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Wycombe Royal We can make emergency loans up to the 2nd Thursday of March so it is hardly a pressing issue at the moment.

Indeed, unless we lose a player before then ! Or unless the right deal is available sooner.
It's no big deal, just an area where if the right player was available in a deal that suited us I think it would make sense. Like signing Harding made sense.

I agree, but as I said previously we won't get a player in on loan who is better than what we have unless they are promised first team football, why sit on our bench when they could sit on the bench of their Premiership club?

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