Coppell to sign contract next

Will Coppell be here next season

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Re: Coppell to sign contract next

by Royalee » 13 Feb 2009 21:19

We're hardly in the same situation as Charlton where we were on a downward spiral before someone took over and took them from the bottom of the Championship to establishing themselves in the Premiership year in, year out. We were already promotion contenders when Coppell took over and we're in the same division now as we were then. To compare Coppell with someone who did for Charlton what Curbishley accomplished is hilarious.

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Re: Coppell to sign contract next

by The 17 Bus » 14 Feb 2009 07:56

Curbishley took the reigns at Charlton as joint manager in July 1991, the previous season they had finished 19th in the league pyramid. Having spent 4 years in the top league getting established.

Coppell took over a team that had never played at the top level, and a team that was argueably stale and needed rebuilding.

Both did a wonderful job, Curbishley less so after he moved to a bigger club.

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Re: Coppell to sign contract next

by SCIAG » 14 Feb 2009 16:26

Ian Royal 2nd tier 2 (larger Premier League = 24)

Ah. I see what was undoing me there. Thanks, Ian!

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Re: Coppell to sign contract next

by Royal With Cheese » 14 Feb 2009 16:37

The 17 Bus Curbishley took the reigns at Charlton as joint manager in July 1991, the previous season they had finished 19th in the league pyramid. Having spent 4 years in the top league getting established.

Coppell took over a team that had never played at the top level, and a team that was argueably stale and needed rebuilding.

Both did a wonderful job, Curbishley less so after he moved to a bigger club.

In my view both were the right fit for their respected clubs. I would argue the same with Bolton and Allardyce. I suspect when Coppell goes he will be a lot harder to replace than some may think. I hope to be proved wrong though.

I still don't understand Royalee's arguments to my original point.

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Re: Coppell to sign contract next

by Ian Royal » 14 Feb 2009 19:08

I've been fairly quiet on the subject of Martinez as a future manager. But if he could get us playing like Swansea, given I think we have more quality than them. I would welcome him with open arms.


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Re: Coppell to sign contract next

by Royal Lady » 15 Feb 2009 09:50

We did used to play like Swansea are at the moment, imo.

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Re: Coppell to sign contract next

by Deathy » 15 Feb 2009 10:31

If we are faced with replacing Coppell this summer, please please go for Roberto Martinez.
He has done a magnificent job at Swansea, and the way they play football is a joy to watch. Great passing side.

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Re: Coppell to sign contract next

by IMAMATEOFJOVSKY » 15 Feb 2009 11:20

Considering Martinez was lined up as a potential replacement for Queiroz? at Man Utd, when he left to manage Portugal, I can imagine that there would be a long line of suitors for his services in the summer

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Re: Coppell to sign contract next

by Ian Royal » 15 Feb 2009 12:20

Royal Lady We did used to play like Swansea are at the moment, imo.


We played better than Swansea are at the moment, but not especially like them, other than they CAN counter quickly with deadly wingers. We never used to have a patient passing build up (except under Burns where we didn't have any attacking prowess), we didn't play 4-5-1 (except under Pards with Fozzie, but very different system)

The only comparisons I see are that both clubs (have) play(ed) with two wide wingers and are exciting to watch and getting the best out of their system.


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Re: Coppell to sign contract next

by Arnie_Pie » 15 Feb 2009 13:13

Lazy bit of journalism -

Steve Coppell's future as Reading manager is in doubt after he refused to open talks about a new contract until the summer. (News of the World) :roll:

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/1 ... DOUBT.html

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Re: Coppell to sign contract next

by Royalee » 15 Feb 2009 14:26

Let Coppell go and bring in Martinez, far more excitement.

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Re: Coppell to sign contract next

by Ian Royal » 15 Feb 2009 14:50

Royalee Let Coppell go and bring in Martinez, far more excitement.


Far more draws?

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Re: Coppell to sign contract next

by Royalee » 15 Feb 2009 15:09

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Royalee Let Coppell go and bring in Martinez, far more excitement.


Far more draws?


No, just more flair and excitement and probably more results long term given we have more resources than Swansea.


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Re: Coppell to sign contract next

by Samrfc01 » 15 Feb 2009 20:07

I dont want Coppell to go but..

I wouldn't mind Darren Ferguson as a replacement

We'd get a few favours from Man Utd aswell... and possibly some off their youngsters...

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Re: Coppell to sign contract next

by SCIAG » 15 Feb 2009 21:39

Samrfc01 I dont want Coppell to go but..

I wouldn't mind Darren Ferguson as a replacement

We'd get a few favours from Man Utd aswell... and possibly some off their youngsters...

If we went up, I genuinely don't think any United youngsters would do us good.

Rafael and Fabio are definately needed. Evans too.
Cathcart wouldn't get in the team.
Maybe Welbeck, but we can do better, and permanently.
Possebon? Let's see if he returns to form after his injury. I don't think he'd get in either tbh. Gibson is worse than Possebon so don't even think about him.

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Re: Coppell to sign contract next

by Sun Tzu » 16 Feb 2009 10:19

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Royalee Let Coppell go and bring in Martinez, far more excitement.


Far more draws?


No, just more flair and excitement and probably more results long term given we have more resources than Swansea.


I guess you are basing that on the extremely limited evidence of what Martinez has actually done so far ?

The football world is littered with managers who have one or two good seasons and then spend years trying to do it again at other clubs with other players.
I like Martinez, he seems intelligent and wants to do things the right way but there is no guarantee that he could repeat things at another club, or even with Swansea in a higher division.
He'd be a better bet than Glenn Hoddle though.....

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Re: Coppell to sign contract next

by Deathy » 16 Feb 2009 11:53

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Samrfc01 I dont want Coppell to go but..

I wouldn't mind Darren Ferguson as a replacement

We'd get a few favours from Man Utd aswell... and possibly some off their youngsters...

If we went up, I genuinely don't think any United youngsters would do us good.

Maybe Welbeck, but we can do better, and permanently.


Yeah right!! Reading, a club that struggled to attract players when in the Premier League, and you think we can do better and possibly get better than Welbeck?

ALOL.

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Re: Coppell to sign contract next

by loyalroyal4life » 16 Feb 2009 12:08

Royalee Let Coppell go and bring in Martinez, far more excitement.



what makes you think he would want to come to RFC

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Re: Coppell to sign contract next

by Royalee » 16 Feb 2009 22:11

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Royalee Let Coppell go and bring in Martinez, far more excitement.



what makes you think he would want to come to RFC


Probably the same reasons Pardew went to West Ham - we're a bigger club than them with more resources and a bigger reputation.

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Re: Coppell to sign contract next

by SCIAG » 18 Feb 2009 09:10

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Samrfc01 I dont want Coppell to go but..

I wouldn't mind Darren Ferguson as a replacement

We'd get a few favours from Man Utd aswell... and possibly some off their youngsters...

If we went up, I genuinely don't think any United youngsters would do us good.

Maybe Welbeck, but we can do better, and permanently.


Yeah right!! Reading, a club that struggled to attract players when in the Premier League, and you think we can do better and possibly get better than Welbeck?

ALOL.

Are you saying that Welbeck, a player you have only heard of since he scored for Man United, is the best striker we could possibly sign in the event of promotion? Jay, I knew you had a reputation for basing your opinions on very little, but ffs!

Better than Welbeck doesn't even need to be a more talented player than Welbeck, though I'm sure we wouldn't struggle to find one. A striker who could challenge effectively in the air would do us more good.

Are you aware of Fabian Brandy, who is playing for Swansea? He's considered a better player than Welbeck, who hasn't been sent on loan because he's not ready for regular first team football. Compare his performances (in a much more talented side, who play far better football with Doyle's or NHunt's.

I agree that Welbeck has every chance of being a very good player in the future, but he isn't what RFC needs in the Premier League.

In any case, it was less of "struggling to attract players", more "slightly unwilling to upset harmony." You can raise me Brown and Lescott in addition to those we signed, and then HNA will come back with "right winger, defensive midfielder, fast striker, centre back", which were still needed after Brown rejected us- in July.

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