A nervous couple of months ahead

[cmonurz]

Interesting that you failed to notice I separated the cup games from the league...

No, you have consistently talked of Swansea's 16 game unbeaten run, which includes 3 cup games. You can't pick and choose which stats you like and which ones you don't. I picked out the Histon game, as it was the one that disproved your notion that you ignore cup games because they include weakened sides.

This has actually deterred from the point I originally made - being your inconsistency in treatment of Bristol City and Swansea.

Bristol City - you choose to diminish their run of 7 wins in 8 games because of the quality of opposition faced.
Swansea - you choose not to diminish their run of 16 games unbeaten even though that run includes eight draws in a row, including five draws against poor sides, and a game against Histon.

Regarding Bristol City - you want us to take into account the quality of the opposition. So do it for Swansea.

[Archie's penalty]

Snowball - I vote you most boring poster *ever* on HNA.

[cmonurz]

And that's quite something with me around.

[Ian Royal]

I've been requested via pm to no longer argue with snowball because another poster appears to consider him incredibly tedious as well.

He's certainly right that his approach is consistent. He consistently uses 1 rule for Reading and another for every other club because he doesn't know enough about their policies.

So by his own admission, uses different criteria to judge different teams. Thus meaning his comparisons with those teams are not equal and therefore do not work. I now expect 3 posts from him, all pretty irrelevant full of numbers and bold statements which don't make logical sense.

I promise to not to argue with whatever bullcrap he puts up though.

[Rex]

Or wait for the breakdown and analytical counteraction. Followed by abuse. Usually when no one else is around.

[Snowball]

Really?
Burnley v Swansea - League
De Vries ,Rangel ,Williams ,Tate ,Monk ,Britton ,Gomez (Pintado ,87 ) ,Pratley ,Gower ,Scotland ,Allen (Dyer ,64)
Histon v Swansea - FA Cup
De Vries ,Serran ,Monk ,Williams ,Tate ,Orlandi (MacDonald ,76 ) ,Tudur-Jones (O'Leary ,56 ) ,Britton ,Butler (Dyer ,64 ) ,Pintado ,Bauza
I make that six changes to the starting line-up.

I am SOoooo glad you showed your true colours. what a cheat!

isn't the TRUTH fun? What happens when you compare cup teams with the nearest league match team?

These are the teams for the three cup games and the three nearest league games and it's pretty damn obvious that Swansea
try to put out their strongest side and the Histon was a small variation (but not Fulham or Pompey. Shame you didn't post THOSE teams

It is patently obvious that Swansea go for the best eleven they can field in both league and cup games

U think they can be excused for giving a few players a run AGAINST A NON-LEAGUE SIDE

de Vries Serran MONK A Williams Tate Orlandi Britton Buaza OTJ Butler Pintado HISTON Dyer (sub)

de Vries Rangel MONK A Williams Tate Gomez Pratley Allen Britton Gower Scotland Burnley Dyer Pintado
de Vries Rangel MONK A Williams Tate Gomez Pratley Allen Dyer ......Gower Scotland Reading Orlandi Pintado OTJ Serran Bauza
de Vries Serran MONK A Williams Tate Gomez Britton Allen Dyer ......Gower Scotland Ipswich Bauza
de Vries Rangel MONK A Williams Tate Gomez Britton Allen Dyer....... Gower Scotland FULHAM Orlandi Bauza
Kost..... Rangel MONK A Williams Tate Gomez Pratley Allen Dyer .......Britton Scotland POMPEY de Vries Pintado GOWER

[Snowball]

I've been requested via pm to no longer argue with snowball because another poster appears to consider him incredibly tedious as well.

He's certainly right that his approach is consistent. He consistently uses 1 rule for Reading and another for every other club because he doesn't know enough about their policies.

So by his own admission, uses different criteria to judge different teams. Thus meaning his comparisons with those teams are not equal and therefore do not work. I now expect 3 posts from him, all pretty irrelevant full of numbers and bold statements which don't make logical sense.

I promise to not to argue with whatever bullcrap he puts up though.

Swansea put out their strongest side in tough games, Cup or league. reading don't

[Snowball]

No, you have consistently talked of Swansea's 16 game unbeaten run, which includes 3 cup games. You can't pick and choose which stats you like and which ones you don't. I picked out the Histon game, as it was the one that disproved your notion that you ignore cup games because they include weakened sides.

So. let's get it right, If Reading were draw n at home to Newport County (Conference South)

you'd expect Coppell to put out the first eleven?

Only ONCE did Swansea play a (slightly) weakened side and it was against non-league opposition

but UNLIKE READING they played their best available eleven against both Fulham and Portsmouth

[seahawk10]

[kingsleyslovewand]

No, you have consistently talked of Swansea's 16 game unbeaten run, which includes 3 cup games. You can't pick and choose which stats you like and which ones you don't. I picked out the Histon game, as it was the one that disproved your notion that you ignore cup games because they include weakened sides.

So. let's get it right, If Reading were draw n at home to Newport County (Conference South)

you'd expect Coppell to put out the first eleven?

Only ONCE did Swansea play a (slightly) weakened side and it was against non-league opposition

but UNLIKE READING they played their best available eleven against both Fulham and Portsmouth

Who gives a shit?

[Hampshire Royal]

Of course, playing fringe players and youths in the cup games has paid dividends for Reading. We have had a number of youth players coming into the team after having played in competitive cup games and all have done pretty well, in my opinion. We are secure in the knowledge that if regular first team players are injured or susended, they can be replaced. Do Swansea (for example) have that confidence?

[Snowball]

Of course, playing fringe players and youths in the cup games has paid dividends for Reading. We have had a number of youth players coming into the team after having played in competitive cup games and all have done pretty well, in my opinion. We are secure in the knowledge that if regular first team players are injured or susended, they can be replaced. Do Swansea (for example) have that confidence?

I agree completely. I have no personal issues with playing fringe players, reserves or youth in cup games
if it helps the club develop (though a good cup run WOULD be nice)

But, because READING don't play anything remotely like a first eleven, I ignore their cup games when considering form


SWANSEA OTOH attempt to put out their strongest sides. Martinez says he hopes
to play the same side that played v Fulham tonight in the championship



SWANSEA last three games

Team League game
Same team Cup game
Same team League game

[Alan Partridge]

Snowball - I vote you most boring poster *ever* on HNA.

Really is a load of Snowballocks

[Snowball]

No, you have consistently talked of Swansea's 16 game unbeaten run, which includes 3 cup games. You can't pick and choose which stats you like and which ones you don't. I picked out the Histon game, as it was the one that disproved your notion that you ignore cup games because they include weakened sides.

So. let's get it right, If Reading were draw n at home to Newport County (Conference South)
you'd expect Coppell to put out the first eleven?
Only ONCE did Swansea play a (slightly) weakened side and it was against non-league opposition
but UNLIKE READING they played their best available eleven against both Fulham and Portsmouth

Who gives a shit?

Not me. I said so day One and ignored our cup stats.

it's the morons who keep saying ignoring Reading's cup stats is 'manipulative" that keep it going

[KC Royal]

At first I appreciated Snowball, now he bores the h*ll out of me. Sorry man.

I have to scroll down through all these numbers...

me too

Ditto, Archie has hit the nail on the head.

This thread is starting to do my head in...

[Ian Royal]

At first I appreciated Snowball, now he bores the h*ll out of me. Sorry man.

I have to scroll down through all these numbers...

me too

Ditto, Archie has hit the nail on the head.

This thread is starting to do my head in...

I'm a visionary, I saw it from day one.

Line up behind me followers! We can storm the gates of heaven together!