SPECULATION - Simon Cox

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by The 17 Bus » 12 Jun 2009 18:41

Royal Lady Seriously - do you really think we would sell Cox for peanuts and then pay a million to get him back??? It's not the "Reading way".


Did you not once say that there was no way he would return to Reading ??? HAs something changed?

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Royal Lady » 12 Jun 2009 18:43

He won't return - but Reading wouldn't ask him to anyway - that's what I meant. :roll:

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Ian Royal » 12 Jun 2009 23:31

There is nothing against the Reading Way in resigning Cox. It's not like we've never resigned someone before.

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Royal Lady » 13 Jun 2009 10:15

We haven't spent a million pounds or more in resigning someone. Hope this helps.

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Rawlie19 » 13 Jun 2009 10:19

Royal Lady We haven't spent a million pounds or more in resigning someone. Hope this helps.

Has anybody been worth a million that we've sold? (and sold to a lesser club so the appeal of coming back would be strong, can't use Sidwell and Shorey as examples)


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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Royal Lady » 13 Jun 2009 12:36

Why would we bother selling someone for peanuts if there was the remotest chance that if they did well we'd spend a million to get them back? He won't come back here this season and RFC won't bid for him.

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Ian Royal » 13 Jun 2009 12:43

Royal Lady Why would we bother selling someone for peanuts if there was the remotest chance that if they did well we'd spend a million to get them back? He won't come back here this season and RFC won't bid for him.



We sold him because he wanted to go and play first team football, which he wasn't ready for in the Prem in all probability. He's developed a hell of a lot as a player doing that and we're now in a lower division. He knows the club. He knows the Manager and he knows a lot of the players. He's still local. We have probably got some quite handy clauses in his sale.

It is an ideal signing and what we sold him for is immaterial. Whether we bid or not is a case of whether Rodgers wants him and thinks he's worth the amount we'd have to spend. Dismissing the idea is simply foolish.

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Muskrat » 13 Jun 2009 13:49

Ian Royal Whether we bid or not is a case of whether Rodgers wants him and thinks he's worth the amount we'd have to spend.


No shit Sherlock..

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Ian Royal » 13 Jun 2009 15:05

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Ian Royal Whether we bid or not is a case of whether Rodgers wants him and thinks he's worth the amount we'd have to spend.


No shit Sherlock..


Well there are plenty of people saying that isn't the case. So it can't be that obvious.


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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Royal Lady » 13 Jun 2009 18:08

Well it's all conjecture. He'll probably be in the Prem before we are, tbf.

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by The 17 Bus » 13 Jun 2009 20:03

I would suggest that he would consider coming back if we are in the hunt, i would agree that he would not return while Coppell was here, and i doubt Coppell would have gone after him, Rodgers might well like to have him back, time will tell, and lets wait and see.

HOWEVER, at the moment he would still be at least third in line, behind Doyle and n Hunt, with Long and Church showing potential we will only sign a striker that Rodgers thinks is better than Hunt, or as good as Hunt if Doyle moves on.

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Ian Royal » 13 Jun 2009 21:43

Rodgers maybe planning on only playing one up front as well. I don't know how Cox would cope with that. although it's unlikely Rodgers will want a man mountain to hoof balls to.

I'm resigned to losing Doyle and even with the improvement from Long recently I'd think given that Cox would be pushing NHunt as first choice in terms of quality and ability to hit the net.

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by brendywendy » 15 Jun 2009 10:52

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Royal Lady Why would we bother selling someone for peanuts if there was the remotest chance that if they did well we'd spend a million to get them back? He won't come back here this season and RFC won't bid for him.



We sold him because he wanted to go and play first team football, which he wasn't ready for in the Prem in all probability. He's developed a hell of a lot as a player doing that and we're now in a lower division. He knows the club. He knows the Manager and he knows a lot of the players. He's still local. We have probably got some quite handy clauses in his sale.

It is an ideal signing and what we sold him for is immaterial. Whether we bid or not is a case of whether Rodgers wants him and thinks he's worth the amount we'd have to spend. Dismissing the idea is simply foolish.



because shes still very upset that we let him go in the first place, and cant pass an opportunity to say so.


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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by brendywendy » 15 Jun 2009 10:52

The 17 Bus I would suggest that he would consider coming back if we are in the hunt, i would agree that he would not return while Coppell was here, and i doubt Coppell would have gone after him, Rodgers might well like to have him back, time will tell, and lets wait and see.

HOWEVER, at the moment he would still be at least third in line, behind Doyle and n Hunt, with Long and Church showing potential we will only sign a striker that Rodgers thinks is better than Hunt, or as good as Hunt if Doyle moves on.


when doyle goes he'd be second in line, or at least equal 2nd with shlong

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Royal Lady » 15 Jun 2009 13:37

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Royal Lady Why would we bother selling someone for peanuts if there was the remotest chance that if they did well we'd spend a million to get them back? He won't come back here this season and RFC won't bid for him.



We sold him because he wanted to go and play first team football, which he wasn't ready for in the Prem in all probability. He's developed a hell of a lot as a player doing that and we're now in a lower division. He knows the club. He knows the Manager and he knows a lot of the players. He's still local. We have probably got some quite handy clauses in his sale.

It is an ideal signing and what we sold him for is immaterial. Whether we bid or not is a case of whether Rodgers wants him and thinks he's worth the amount we'd have to spend. Dismissing the idea is simply foolish.



because shes still very upset that we let him go in the first place, and cant pass an opportunity to say so.
I'm not upset anymore - he's done far better for himself than if he'd been kept in the reserves here. I would, however, venture to suggest, that if RFC thought he might go on to be such a good player that they would consider buying him back at some point, they would have loaned him out for another season before selling him for £200k. :roll:

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Sun Tzu » 15 Jun 2009 13:45

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because shes still very upset that we let him go in the first place, and cant pass an opportunity to say so.
I'm not upset anymore - he's done far better for himself than if he'd been kept in the reserves here. I would, however, venture to suggest, that if RFC thought he might go on to be such a good player that they would consider buying him back at some point, they would have loaned him out for another season before selling him for £200k. :roll:[/quote]

He's not done anything yet to prove he's more than a one season lower league wonder. Looks like he may get the chance to step up next season though and good luck to him.

Do we know that there wasn;t the option of sending him out on loan ? He seemed pretty keen to make a permanent move though and would he have been prepared to make another short term move ? I have no idea !

200k with a big add on is not a bad price for an unproven reserve player, and he certainly won't be the last player to make a series of moves all increasing in value (like Kitson, Doyle, Sonko, Shorey, Hunt, Sidwell......)

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Harry Carry » 15 Jun 2009 13:46

He's sh1t anyway.

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by brendywendy » 15 Jun 2009 13:47

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We sold him because he wanted to go and play first team football, which he wasn't ready for in the Prem in all probability. He's developed a hell of a lot as a player doing that and we're now in a lower division. He knows the club. He knows the Manager and he knows a lot of the players. He's still local. We have probably got some quite handy clauses in his sale.

It is an ideal signing and what we sold him for is immaterial. Whether we bid or not is a case of whether Rodgers wants him and thinks he's worth the amount we'd have to spend. Dismissing the idea is simply foolish.



because shes still very upset that we let him go in the first place, and cant pass an opportunity to say so.
I'm not upset anymore - he's done far better for himself than if he'd been kept in the reserves here. I would, however, venture to suggest, that if RFC thought he might go on to be such a good player that they would consider buying him back at some point, they would have loaned him out for another season before selling him for £200k. :roll:


i believe that option was offered, but we were being fair to the young lad and he wanted to go.
and that fair treatment is another reason he may be tempted back here

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Royal Lady » 15 Jun 2009 19:23

I'll ask him in a bit and report back. HTH.

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Harry Carry » 15 Jun 2009 20:36

Harry Carry He's sh1t anyway.


agreed.

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