Barnsley - back from the game

[ZacNaloen]

He's best in a distributive role these days, he doesn't look comfortable attacking and he can't defend. And we already have at least two players out performing him in that position anyway.

[Royalee]

He's got the ability to pass the ball and attack but he lacks the brains.

[Half Horse]

Cheers for the responses guys. Glad BR has managed to compromise somewhat before it's way too late - shows he's still learning and willing to accept when some of his decisions have been wrong. Sorry to see that Marek and Harper don't seem to figure in his plans at all though.

Onwards and upwards!

The arrogance of this post is simply breath-taking!

Rodgers is a professional football manager - you are not. He has not compromised, he's in the process, after 5 league games, of working out both his best system and the players that will fit that system, a process that may take half a season. I'm sure with your wealth of experience you could do a far better job.

"Still learning and willing to accept when some of his decisions have been wrong." OMG!

[Deathy]

Cheers for the responses guys. Glad BR has managed to compromise somewhat before it's way too late - shows he's still learning and willing to accept when some of his decisions have been wrong. Sorry to see that Marek and Harper don't seem to figure in his plans at all though.

Onwards and upwards!

The arrogance of this post is simply breath-taking!

Rodgers is a professional football manager - you are not. He has not compromised, he's in the process, after 5 league games, of working out both his best system and the players that will fit that system, a process that may take half a season. I'm sure with your wealth of experience you could do a far better job.

"Still learning and willing to accept when some of his decisions have been wrong." OMG!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS37SNYjg8w&feature=fvw

"The lady has foolishly attempted to join the conversation with a wild and dangerous opinion of her own, what half baked drivel."

[Half Horse]

Cheers for the responses guys. Glad BR has managed to compromise somewhat before it's way too late - shows he's still learning and willing to accept when some of his decisions have been wrong. Sorry to see that Marek and Harper don't seem to figure in his plans at all though.

Onwards and upwards!

The arrogance of this post is simply breath-taking!

Rodgers is a professional football manager - you are not. He has not compromised, he's in the process, after 5 league games, of working out both his best system and the players that will fit that system, a process that may take half a season. I'm sure with your wealth of experience you could do a far better job.

"Still learning and willing to accept when some of his decisions have been wrong." OMG!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS37SNYjg8w&feature=fvw

"The lady has foolishly attempted to join the conversation with a wild and dangerous opinion of her own, what half baked drivel."

My comments weren't gender related but if you want to take that stance then it's your prerogative

[Terminal Boardom]

Rodgers is a professional football manager. He has not compromised, he's in the process, after 5 league games, of working out both his best system and the players that will fit that system, a process that may take half a season.

Which fully explains BR's comments on this weekend being the end of pre-season.

[old woman]

As well as the Sig's corners, Antonio's throw-ins were impressive. Managed to get the ball into the penalty area.

[North Somerset Royal]

Great to see us win away again and a night out in Leeds with friends made it a great trip.

On the positive side we played in a far more direct way and went for them from the start. For the first 10mins we looked a class above Barnsley and their goal came very much against the run of play. It came from a corner and once again we were guilty of ball watching and losing the man to gift them a clear header. We then went to pieces for the next 15 mins and it looked like we were infor a hiding but Pearces goal rallied the troops and we grew from there.
Kebe for once had a brilliant game consistently getting behind their defence and putting in some good crosses and was my man of the match. At the end of the day Barnsley are a poor team so lets not get carried away but it was a much better performance all round so at leat something to build on.

My ratings :-
Fed 7 - made some good saves and distribution excellent despite windy conditions but was also panicky at times. Nearly gifted them a goal by kicking the ball straight at one of their players with the rebound going only just wide of the post.
Ros - One of his better games 8
Mills - 6 Jury is out - caught out of position several times- seems rather slow
Pearce- 7 Lost his man a couple of times but generally sound and good shot for goal
Bertrand 8 - Excellent game getting forward on numerous occasions
Karacan- 7 - good going forward but too easily muscled off the ball.
Gunner- 6 Playing in front of the back 4 he gave the defence a boost but distribution woeful
Siggy- 8 - Best game I have seen him play - ran the midfield.
Kebe- 9- If he played like this every week he would be off to the Prem. Won pen for second and great cross for Hunt to head 3rd.
H R-K 7 - Not involved as much as Kebe but did nothing much wrong.
Hunt 8 - Good pen and whilst header relatively easy as a result of Kebe's excellent cross took it well.
Rasiak- 7- On for last 25 mins looked energetic and threatening. Made some good runs to take defenders away.
Long & Antonio - not on long enough to make much impact but Antonio is a long throw specialist who could be very useful.

Finally LOL at short sighted steward who ran all the way from pitchside to the top of the stand to tell me off for bdrinking beer only to find it it was coffee.

[The Royal We]

Just got back myself - spent last night in Sheffield.

My thoughts:

Kebe - MOTM. Yes, early on he sent what should have been an easy cross into the stands, but what winger doesn't do that on occasion?! People need to get off his back. He will be sh*t at times, but he proved today that he can be a useful asset and he had a hand in all 3 goals.

Karacan was good - again. Mills and Bryn started poorly but got much better as the game went on. Noel was good. And Rosenior (who I don't usually rate) was pretty solid I thought. Gylfi Sigurdsson also had a good game. The boy looks a class act.

[Deathy]

]Antonio's throw-ins were impressive. Managed to get the ball into the penalty area.

Now that would be a great weapon! Better than corners, for Stoke anyway.

[Royal Rother]

It seems unusual for a youngster to be a long throw specialist. Interesting to see how that develops.

[Ian Royal]

Not a fan of long throws, seen them made to work far far too infrequently. Usually they are very easy to defend against.

It's not just about the distance, but about the trajectory and accuracy as well. At worst I guess it's a useful thing to throw in th emix as a surprise every now and then. Not that I expect him to play a particularly big role this season.

[Deathy]

Not a fan of long throws, seen them made to work far far too infrequently. Usually they are very easy to defend against.

It's not just about the distance, but about the trajectory and accuracy as well. At worst I guess it's a useful thing to throw in th emix as a surprise every now and then. Not that I expect him to play a particularly big role this season.

As you say, it's all about the trajectory and accuracy, but Stoke use this to full efect every game. Teams dread facing their throws. And of course, you can't be offside either.

[Ian Royal]

Not a fan of long throws, seen them made to work far far too infrequently. Usually they are very easy to defend against.

It's not just about the distance, but about the trajectory and accuracy as well. At worst I guess it's a useful thing to throw in th emix as a surprise every now and then. Not that I expect him to play a particularly big role this season.

As you say, it's all about the trajectory and accuracy, but Stoke use this to full efect every game. Teams dread facing their throws. And of course, you can't be offside either.

That's because Delap has a good long throw. It's fast, flat and accurate. The majority I've seen are high and looping, which makes them easy for defenders.

I don't really think offside is much of a consideration under the circumstances.

[Royalee]

Everything in football is a waste of time if you can't do it properly, why so negative?

[Ian Royal]

Everything in football is a waste of time if you can't do it properly, why so negative?

Because Stoke and Delap are the only team I've seen make long throws consistently effective. I've seen us try them with plenty of different throwers, at plenty of different times over the last 10 - 15 years. They've always been crap. Like short corners.

Why go for it, when with a bit of decent movement you can take a short one and have different options to try: to run at the defence, spread the play to the other wing, cross from deep, or go to the byline and cross.

Long throws smack of desperation and inelegance to me.

[Royal Lady]

Cheers for the responses guys. Glad BR has managed to compromise somewhat before it's way too late - shows he's still learning and willing to accept when some of his decisions have been wrong. Sorry to see that Marek and Harper don't seem to figure in his plans at all though.

Onwards and upwards!

The arrogance of this post is simply breath-taking!

Rodgers is a professional football manager - you are not. He has not compromised, he's in the process, after 5 league games, of working out both his best system and the players that will fit that system, a process that may take half a season. I'm sure with your wealth of experience you could do a far better job.

"Still learning and willing to accept when some of his decisions have been wrong." OMG!

My reply was partially in response to this from Dirk Gently "As someone said above, almost a realisation from BR that the "pure, passing" style won't cut it in the CCC, and he needs to compromise a bit." I was hardly being arrogant, certainly wasn't the intention.

[Royal With Cheese]

Everything in football is a waste of time if you can't do it properly, why so negative?

Speaks the King of negativity during Coppell's tenure.

FWIW (not much) I didn't go to the game but did see the goals on Sunday.

1st - Comic defending. Reminded me of Sheffield Wednesday at home last year.
2nd - Penalty? Thought it was a bit harsh.
3rd - Again, comedy defending.

I'm hoping that we meet more teams like Barnsley and less like Newcastle this season!

[ZacNaloen]

Everything in football is a waste of time if you can't do it properly, why so negative?

Because Stoke and Delap are the only team I've seen make long throws consistently effective. I've seen us try them with plenty of different throwers, at plenty of different times over the last 10 - 15 years. They've always been crap. Like short corners.

Why go for it, when with a bit of decent movement you can take a short one and have different options to try: to run at the defence, spread the play to the other wing, cross from deep, or go to the byline and cross.

Long throws smack of desperation and inelegance to me.

The comments on the radio were such that Antonio's long throw is at a low trajectory and quick, much like Delaps.

[gonesy]

Barnsley manager has just left the club by mutual consent. Where they that bad?

Not as bad as it could be...

Monday 31st August

Tykes target Adams - The Sun
Former Portsmouth boss Tony Adams is top of Barnsley's list of candidates to replace Simon Davey, who was sacked on Saturday. Is the ex-Arsenal and England captain the right man for the Oakwell hot-seat?

Why sack a manager when there'e no decent replacement lined up? I never understand this!