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Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Schards#2 » 13 Sep 2009 10:16

Noel Hunt, Raziak, Long, Church - have we ever had a worse selection of forwards?

Well yes, but not, I would say, since January 2000 when we were labouring along with Scott, Williams, McIntyre and an unfit Forster.

In February 2000, we signed Martin Butler and since that point have always had forwards that looked capable of scoring and at least one that might get 20 plus in a season. I look at the current crop and doubt any will score 20 and also doubt more than one of them will get to double figures.

I like Hunt but in no way is he suited to a lone striker role and he won't be creating many chances himself. Raziak is a Championship journeyman and Long and Church are not up to it at this level.

The fight for survival starts here and it's all about games like yesterday's and scrabbling enough points together to limp home. Two years ago we were thumping Liverpool. That's the brick by brick for you.

Enjoy

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by PEARCEY » 13 Sep 2009 10:28

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Sarah Star » 13 Sep 2009 10:31

Isn't it more the fact that we're relying on one of them to do it up front on their own that's the problem?

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by PEARCEY » 13 Sep 2009 10:32

Sarah Star Isn't it more the fact that we're relying on one of them to do it up front on their own that's the problem?


Certainly part of the problem. Playing one up front at home??? What the fcuk is all that about?

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Royal Lady » 13 Sep 2009 10:37

Perhaps Rodgers has been told that in no way must we go up at the end of the season! :wink:


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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Schards#2 » 13 Sep 2009 10:37

Sarah Star Isn't it more the fact that we're relying on one of them to do it up front on their own that's the problem?


It's part of the problem, but we did this successfully for a while under Pardew. The difference being that, in Nicky Forster, we had a player who played the role well and was capable of scoring goals from nothing.

None of the current crop can do this so playing more than one would certainly be a start, particularly at home, particularly to lesser sides like Doncaster.

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by PEARCEY » 13 Sep 2009 10:39

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Sarah Star Isn't it more the fact that we're relying on one of them to do it up front on their own that's the problem?


It's part of the problem, but we did this successfully for a while under Pardew. The difference being that, in Nicky Forster, we had a player who played the role well and was capable of scoring goals from nothing.

None of the current crop can do this so playing more than one would certainly be a start, particularly at home, particularly to lesser sides like Doncaster.


Yes and you take Forster out of that side and we looked toothless....the Wolves play-off semi-finals certainly showed that to be so.

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by winchester_royal » 13 Sep 2009 10:44

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Sarah Star Isn't it more the fact that we're relying on one of them to do it up front on their own that's the problem?


Certainly part of the problem. Playing one up front at home??? What the fcuk is all that about?


Funny how Chelsea went unbeaten at home for more than 40 games playing the same way.

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by PEARCEY » 13 Sep 2009 10:45

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Sarah Star Isn't it more the fact that we're relying on one of them to do it up front on their own that's the problem?


Certainly part of the problem. Playing one up front at home??? What the fcuk is all that about?


Funny how Chelsea went unbeaten at home for more than 40 games playing the same way.



:lol: Yes its hilarious. Might have had something to do with the quality of their players dont you think?


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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by winchester_royal » 13 Sep 2009 10:47

So?

We didn't win the last 9 games of Coppell's reign playing 4-4-2, so why you think playing that formation will automatically solve everything I have no idea.

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by PEARCEY » 13 Sep 2009 10:55

Dont put words in my mouth by saying the change in formation will automatically solve anything.
However playing some-one ill-suited to the lone striker position like Noel Hunt is not going to result in postive results. He is not the most mobile player to play that role is he now.

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by winchester_royal » 13 Sep 2009 11:52

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winchester_royal We didn't win the last 9 games of Coppell's reign playing 4-4-2


Yet you conveniently forget about the rest of the season, where we at times looked capable of beating anyone and played excellent football. And you forget about the years before that, and all the good results it brought us.
106 points! You just CAN NOT beat that for arguments, and we beat the likes of Liverpool, are you going to say you did not enjoy it?
The style of play we now have can only bring more Tommy Burns'ish results, and the transfer policy is a joke. We sold our best players and kept Kebe, if you call that a success.. well... good luck to you.

Rodgers revolution? NO, Rodgers RELEGATION.


4-4-2 relies on effective wingers. We don't have that any more. We must adapt.

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Royal Lady » 13 Sep 2009 11:53

Perhaps you should tell that to Royalee, he's advocating that formation on another thread!!


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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by winchester_royal » 13 Sep 2009 11:55

Royal Lady Perhaps you should tell that to Royalee, he's advocating that formation on another thread!!

Rodgers' 4-4-2 is more of a narrow diamond. I was merely explaining why SC's favoured tactics wouldn't work now.

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by JoebyRFC » 13 Sep 2009 11:55

Due to his time at chelsea Brendan Rodgers has obviously tried to play the same quick and slick football as they do, in some cases we do play some good football.

But he's forgetting that the chelsea players are top class players earning millions, such as Drogba who is perfect for the 1 striker formation because he has all the right attributes for it, while we just don't have that quality and that's what coppell was good at, making a system work (until january) with our players and at this moment of time Brendan has to come up with OUR formation quick

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by paultheroyal » 13 Sep 2009 12:07

Schards#2 Noel Hunt, Raziak, Long, Church - have we ever had a worse selection of forwards?

Well yes, but not, I would say, since January 2000 when we were labouring along with Scott, Williams, McIntyre and an unfit Forster.

In February 2000, we signed Martin Butler and since that point have always had forwards that looked capable of scoring and at least one that might get 20 plus in a season. I look at the current crop and doubt any will score 20 and also doubt more than one of them will get to double figures.

I like Hunt but in no way is he suited to a lone striker role and he won't be creating many chances himself. Raziak is a Championship journeyman and Long and Church are not up to it at this level.

The fight for survival starts here and it's all about games like yesterday's and scrabbling enough points together to limp home. Two years ago we were thumping Liverpool. That's the brick by brick for you.

Enjoy


3 internationals - yep pretty woeful.

:roll:

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Archie's penalty » 13 Sep 2009 12:14

Schards#2 Noel Hunt, Raziak, Long, Church - have we ever had a worse selection of forwards?

Well yes, but not, I would say, since January 2000 when we were labouring along with Scott, Williams, McIntyre and an unfit Forster.

In February 2000, we signed Martin Butler and since that point have always had forwards that looked capable of scoring and at least one that might get 20 plus in a season. I look at the current crop and doubt any will score 20 and also doubt more than one of them will get to double figures.

I like Hunt but in no way is he suited to a lone striker role and he won't be creating many chances himself. Raziak is a Championship journeyman and Long and Church are not up to it at this level.

The fight for survival starts here and it's all about games like yesterday's and scrabbling enough points together to limp home. Two years ago we were thumping Liverpool. That's the brick by brick for you.

Enjoy


Good post.

Rasiak and Nhunt have to play together up front.

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by PEARCEY » 13 Sep 2009 12:22

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Schards#2 Noel Hunt, Raziak, Long, Church - have we ever had a worse selection of forwards?

Well yes, but not, I would say, since January 2000 when we were labouring along with Scott, Williams, McIntyre and an unfit Forster.

In February 2000, we signed Martin Butler and since that point have always had forwards that looked capable of scoring and at least one that might get 20 plus in a season. I look at the current crop and doubt any will score 20 and also doubt more than one of them will get to double figures.

I like Hunt but in no way is he suited to a lone striker role and he won't be creating many chances himself. Raziak is a Championship journeyman and Long and Church are not up to it at this level.

The fight for survival starts here and it's all about games like yesterday's and scrabbling enough points together to limp home. Two years ago we were thumping Liverpool. That's the brick by brick for you.

Enjoy


3 internationals - yep pretty woeful.

:roll:



Whats your point? Nicky Forster wasn't an international but I would have chosen him ahead of any of the four strikers we currently have.

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by howser » 13 Sep 2009 12:32

The striking options are limited, but good goalscoring forwards cost a lot of money to buy and to pay, there we have the crux of the problem, Mr "tightarse" Ego would never be prepared to do that, god forbid we have a successful team again, I have sympathy for BR and the slating he is going to get on here when the results dont go as we all wish, I sadly think that he has taken on the "poison challice" here, as we are now drifting down the league with the side rapidly being dismantled, by, to qoute a well known phrase "brick-by-brick"
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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by M Brook » 13 Sep 2009 12:34

I would still choose him today!

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