Worst attacking options since January 2000

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Big Foot » 30 Nov 2009 15:34

How so? Replacing like with like? What's tactical about that?

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Sarah Star » 30 Nov 2009 15:40

Well... and I'm just guessing here... but he probably thought that Long could do things that Church couldn't and that Church was being a bit hesitant in front of goal. That's what I thought at the time.

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Big Foot » 30 Nov 2009 15:51

Church has scored 3 in 14 for Reading whilst Shane Long has scored 17 in 102.

Church averages a goal every 4.6 games, Long a goal every 6 (six) games.

How would Long have posed more of a goal threat?

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Sarah Star » 30 Nov 2009 15:53

Because on the day Church wasn't firing. I even had my Derby mates leaning over and asking why he wasn't shooting when he had the chance. He wasn't having a good game.

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Ian Royal » 30 Nov 2009 15:56

Sarah Star Well... and I'm just guessing here... but he probably thought that Long could do things that Church couldn't and that Church was being a bit hesitant in front of goal. That's what I thought at the time.


Like looking fat and useless and throwing a childish temper tantrum (AGAIN) when a decision doesn't go his way?


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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Sarah Star » 30 Nov 2009 16:00

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Sarah Star Well... and I'm just guessing here... but he probably thought that Long could do things that Church couldn't and that Church was being a bit hesitant in front of goal. That's what I thought at the time.


Like looking fat and useless and throwing a childish temper tantrum (AGAIN) when a decision doesn't go his way?

I'm fairly certain that wasn't in the plan. Tbf, the Derby players are wind-up merchants and probably didn't help him out - nor did the ref who should have done something about the first foul on Long.

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Big Foot » 30 Nov 2009 16:21

Sarah Star Because on the day Church wasn't firing. I even had my Derby mates leaning over and asking why he wasn't shooting when he had the chance. He wasn't having a good game.

Hardly a tactical change then? A tactical change as I know it is to change the tactics. So you are essentially agreeing with me.

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by seahawk10 » 30 Nov 2009 16:39

Let's just bring in Simon Cox.


Oh. :oops:

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Sarah Star » 30 Nov 2009 16:49

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Sarah Star Because on the day Church wasn't firing. I even had my Derby mates leaning over and asking why he wasn't shooting when he had the chance. He wasn't having a good game.

Hardly a tactical change then? A tactical change as I know it is to change the tactics. So you are essentially agreeing with me.

Well, fair enough, but I doubt it was because he was injured and it could be because Long could have made the space to shoot where Church couldn't.


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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by handbags_harris » 30 Nov 2009 16:56

strap So Floyd, you have no faith in The Bodger's World Class 4-6-0 model then? We all thought this was merely a classification of the old Pacific type steam locos - BUT NO! It is actually The Bodger's secret weapon. Playing 1 up front is obviously not working, so seeing as the strikers aren't scoring anyway, and given we donlt actually have a fit one that can last 90 mins, then hey, why bother with the useless lazy bastards!?!?!?

Traditional back four (well as traditional as The Bodger can be, with a left sided attacking midfielder at right back as the right back he did sign canlt play football).

Two defensive midfielders to protect the back four, (because they aren't good enough to defend on their own).

Two wingers (well one winger and Kebe), hairing up and down the wing to provide pin-point crosses for our two attacking midfielders to run onto from deep!

Sorted! This management lark is a piece of piss ain't it!?!? AND I've just saved The Mad Man a few bob in a new striker!

League 1 is a bummer. Do you remember it guys? Well that's where we're headed under The Bodger!!!


Strap, I have to take huge exception to this post. It is so blatantly incorrect it's laughable, in fact I am appalled, angered, and dismayed by your blindness and lack of knowledge. Everybody should know that the wheel arrangement for a Pacific locomotive is 4-6-2, not 4-6-0!!!

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Silver Fox » 30 Nov 2009 16:57

I just wish strap would hurry up and tell us when he's settled on a nickname for the manager

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by shaka's shorts » 30 Nov 2009 17:46

HRK could play up front surely if Church or Rasiak is injured

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by howser » 30 Nov 2009 17:54

In reality I think you have to look further up the management chain to find the reason why we havent bought another striker in.


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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Dorset-Knob » 30 Nov 2009 18:46

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strap So Floyd, you have no faith in The Bodger's World Class 4-6-0 model then? We all thought this was merely a classification of the old Pacific type steam locos - BUT NO! It is actually The Bodger's secret weapon. Playing 1 up front is obviously not working, so seeing as the strikers aren't scoring anyway, and given we donlt actually have a fit one that can last 90 mins, then hey, why bother with the useless lazy bastards!?!?!?

Traditional back four (well as traditional as The Bodger can be, with a left sided attacking midfielder at right back as the right back he did sign canlt play football).

Two defensive midfielders to protect the back four, (because they aren't good enough to defend on their own).

Two wingers (well one winger and Kebe), hairing up and down the wing to provide pin-point crosses for our two attacking midfielders to run onto from deep!

Sorted! This management lark is a piece of piss ain't it!?!? AND I've just saved The Mad Man a few bob in a new striker!

League 1 is a bummer. Do you remember it guys? Well that's where we're headed under The Bodger!!!


Strap, I have to take huge exception to this post. It is so blatantly incorrect it's laughable, in fact I am appalled, angered, and dismayed by your blindness and lack of knowledge. Everybody should know that the wheel arrangement for a Pacific locomotive is 4-6-2, not 4-6-0!!!



You is a train spotting anorak AICMFP! :wink:

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by RoyalBlue » 30 Nov 2009 19:38

shaka's shorts HRK could play up front surely if Church or Rasiak is injured


Yes and if push comes to shove, there is always Kingsley! :twisted:

That's the bloody mess Madejski's wonderful financial management/incredible shortsightedness/arrogance has left us in.

There is not a manager in the game who could do a decent job with the budget and players Madejski has left Rodgers with.

Yet no doubt some of the blind disciples will still be singing the tightfisted, self-centred, Ego's praises and claiming there was no other way when we are back in League One!

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Dorset-Knob » 30 Nov 2009 20:20

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shaka's shorts HRK could play up front surely if Church or Rasiak is injured


Yes and if push comes to shove, there is always Kingsley! :twisted:

That's the bloody mess Madejski's wonderful financial management/incredible shortsightedness/arrogance has left us in.

There is not a manager in the game who could do a decent job with the budget and players Madejski has left Rodgers with.

Yet no doubt some of the blind disciples will still be singing the tightfisted, self-centred, Ego's praises and claiming there was no other way when we are back in League One!


Just in the interests of accuracy, BR chose to come to Reading and he does know all about the club and he selected some of the players himself and there most certainly are other managers doing as well if not better on as small or smaller budgets! HTH

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Southbank Old Boy » 30 Nov 2009 20:30

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Sarah Star Because on the day Church wasn't firing. I even had my Derby mates leaning over and asking why he wasn't shooting when he had the chance. He wasn't having a good game.

Hardly a tactical change then? A tactical change as I know it is to change the tactics. So you are essentially agreeing with me.


I would say a tactical change is any that isnt dictated by injury

I havent seen anything to say Church was brought off because of injury, although it wouldnt surprise me

I cant understand why we didnt get someone, just about anyone, in to cover us til Jan. Seems like a mistake to me, but then again I dont think anyone else suitable (Kitson wasnt suitable) moved anywhere else in the last week, so you have to guess the right kinda player just wasnt available

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Southbank Old Boy » 30 Nov 2009 20:32

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shaka's shorts HRK could play up front surely if Church or Rasiak is injured


Yes and if push comes to shove, there is always Kingsley! :twisted:

That's the bloody mess Madejski's wonderful financial management/incredible shortsightedness/arrogance has left us in.

There is not a manager in the game who could do a decent job with the budget and players Madejski has left Rodgers with.

Yet no doubt some of the blind disciples will still be singing the tightfisted, self-centred, Ego's praises and claiming there was no other way when we are back in League One!


Just in the interests of accuracy, BR chose to come to Reading and he does know all about the club and he selected some of the players himself and there most certainly are other managers doing as well if not better on as small or smaller budgets! HTH

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Those managers didnt have to rehash a squad that was ripped apart after an expensive gamble didnt pay off though

Our position is pretty extreme because we got rid of some many key performers so quickly

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Dorset-Knob » 30 Nov 2009 20:40

[quote=That's the bloody mess Madejski's wonderful financial management/incredible shortsightedness/arrogance has left us in.

There is not a manager in the game who could do a decent job with the budget and players Madejski has left Rodgers with.

Yet no doubt some of the blind disciples will still be singing the tightfisted, self-centred, Ego's praises and claiming there was no other way when we are back in League One![/quote]

Just in the interests of accuracy, BR chose to come to Reading and he does know all about the club and he selected some of the players himself and there most certainly are other managers doing as well if not better on as small or smaller budgets! HTH

:wink:[/quote]

Those managers didnt have to rehash a squad that was ripped apart after an expensive gamble didnt pay off though

Our position is pretty extreme because we got rid of some many key performers so quickly[/quote]

I suspect Ian Holloway would beg to differ!

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Southbank Old Boy » 30 Nov 2009 20:50

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Southbank Old Boy Those managers didnt have to rehash a squad that was ripped apart after an expensive gamble didnt pay off though

Our position is pretty extreme because we got rid of some many key performers so quickly


I suspect Ian Holloway would beg to differ!


Why?

How many of his top players did he lose over the summer? How many of them were long term mainstays of the squad and proven performers at this and the next level up?

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