RUMOUR-Antonio to Leeds

[gazzer, loyal royal]

I've heard this rumour recently. I know he's signed a new deal but Leeds seem very keen and we could get a substantial profit on him

[Messiah]

Couple hundred thousand and means we get Kissmahwilly or Griffin, then yes please.

[Wycombe Royal]

We only got him to sign a new deal so that we didn't lose him for nothing. We wouldn't have got any compensation if we hadn't taken up the option on his contract.

[Terminal Boardom]

Couple hundred thousand and means we get Kissmahwilly or Griffin, then yes please.

Yawn! Griffin will only come if it is the right thing for his family. Money, in this instance is an irrelevance.

[FiNeRaIn]

We only got him to sign a new deal so that we didn't lose him for nothing. We wouldn't have got any compensation if we hadn't taken up the option on his contract.

You sure about that, he's under the age of 24. So I thought it would be a tribunal fee? Or does it only count if he turns down the contract then moves. Genuine question.

[Wizard]

We only got him to sign a new deal so that we didn't lose him for nothing. We wouldn't have got any compensation if we hadn't taken up the option on his contract.

You sure about that, he's under the age of 24. So I thought it would be a tribunal fee? Or does it only count if he turns down the contract then moves. Genuine question.

Fairly sure that it only set by tribunal if the player turns down the contract, or is out of contract.

[Wycombe Royal]

We only got him to sign a new deal so that we didn't lose him for nothing. We wouldn't have got any compensation if we hadn't taken up the option on his contract.

You sure about that, he's under the age of 24. So I thought it would be a tribunal fee? Or does it only count if he turns down the contract then moves. Genuine question.

You would only get a fee/compensation if you offer the player who is under 24 a new contract that is on the same or better terms and he turns it down.

With Antonio his contract was up and our only options were to not take up the option of a further year on his contract and release him (thus getting fee/compensation) or take up the option which Antonio could not turn down (it is our option not his).

[Sun Tzu]

We only got him to sign a new deal so that we didn't lose him for nothing. We wouldn't have got any compensation if we hadn't taken up the option on his contract.

You sure about that, he's under the age of 24. So I thought it would be a tribunal fee? Or does it only count if he turns down the contract then moves. Genuine question.

You would only get a fee/compensation if you offer the player who is under 24 a new contract that is on the same or better terms and he turns it down.

With Antonio his contract was up and our only options were to not take up the option of a further year on his contract and release him (thus getting fee/compensation) or take up the option which Antonio could not turn down (it is our option not his).

Surely if we didn't take up the option then we get no compensation as we'd not offered him a new deal (as per your first paragraph !!)

Not sure if you typo'd there.....

[Ian Royal]

I assumed it was a typo missing out "no"

I wasn't aware we had an option to automatically extend his contract without his agreement though. Sounds like the sort of thing that would be relatively easy to get out of by kicking up a stink. Although we'd obviously get the compo from any other club then.

[Barry the bird boggler]

Personally I hope Antonio goes nowhere except into our 1st team

[Sun Tzu]

I assumed it was a typo missing out "no"

I wasn't aware we had an option to automatically extend his contract without his agreement though. Sounds like the sort of thing that would be relatively easy to get out of by kicking up a stink. Although we'd obviously get the compo from any other club then.

For a youngster coming out of non league football the clause would seem pretty straight forward. We took a risk on him, he got a big opportunity. For us to say we wanted to be able to either cut things short or keep him on depending on his rate of progress would not be at all unreasonable. Think of it as a break clause rather than an extension.

And it's obviously not in the slightest without his agreement, as the squiggle at the bottom of the contract shows....

[Mike Hunt]

Personally I hope Antonio goes nowhere except into our 1st team

Do you think that he is ready for the jump? I have not seen him, so of course would not comment, but there seems to be mixed feelings about him.

[Wycombe Royal]

You sure about that, he's under the age of 24. So I thought it would be a tribunal fee? Or does it only count if he turns down the contract then moves. Genuine question.

You would only get a fee/compensation if you offer the player who is under 24 a new contract that is on the same or better terms and he turns it down.

With Antonio his contract was up and our only options were to not take up the option of a further year on his contract and release him (thus getting fee/compensation) or take up the option which Antonio could not turn down (it is our option not his).

Surely if we didn't take up the option then we get no compensation as we'd not offered him a new deal (as per your first paragraph !!)

Not sure if you typo'd there.....

Indeed it was a typo - if only I could type as fast as as the sentance forms in my head......

[Tilehurst End]

Personally I hope Antonio goes nowhere except into our 1st team

Do you think that he is ready for the jump? I have not seen him, so of course would not comment, but there seems to be mixed feelings about him.

Know a Saints fan who raves about him and is disappointed he hasn't stayed there.

Reminds me a bit of HRK but with probably a better eye for goal.

[Sarah Star]

Personally I hope Antonio goes nowhere except into our 1st team

Do you think that he is ready for the jump? I have not seen him, so of course would not comment, but there seems to be mixed feelings about him.

I saw him in some Cup games for us early on and thought he looked a bit of a liability - fast, but he kept losing the ball. Then I saw him play for Saints in the FA Cup and he looked outstanding down the wing, much more controlled and scored a goal as well. I know it was only one game and he did have some off moments, but if he can improve that much then I hope to see him playing for us again.

[paultheroyal]

Personally I hope Antonio goes nowhere except into our 1st team

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This

[Sun Tzu]

Indeed it was a typo - if only I could type as fast as as the sentance forms in my head......

I have the same trouble with speaking.

[Ian Royal]

I assumed it was a typo missing out "no"

I wasn't aware we had an option to automatically extend his contract without his agreement though. Sounds like the sort of thing that would be relatively easy to get out of by kicking up a stink. Although we'd obviously get the compo from any other club then.

For a youngster coming out of non league football the clause would seem pretty straight forward. We took a risk on him, he got a big opportunity. For us to say we wanted to be able to either cut things short or keep him on depending on his rate of progress would not be at all unreasonable. Think of it as a break clause rather than an extension.

And it's obviously not in the slightest without his agreement, as the squiggle at the bottom of the contract shows....

So are you just idly speculating about what his contract was or do you have inside knowledge.

When I said without his agreement, I of course meant without his further agreement at the time of extension, clearly anything in the terms of his contract would count as agreed in the strictest sense. It doesn't mean that person would have to be happy with it at the result a the later date

[Sun Tzu]

I assumed it was a typo missing out "no"

I wasn't aware we had an option to automatically extend his contract without his agreement though. Sounds like the sort of thing that would be relatively easy to get out of by kicking up a stink. Although we'd obviously get the compo from any other club then.

For a youngster coming out of non league football the clause would seem pretty straight forward. We took a risk on him, he got a big opportunity. For us to say we wanted to be able to either cut things short or keep him on depending on his rate of progress would not be at all unreasonable. Think of it as a break clause rather than an extension.

And it's obviously not in the slightest without his agreement, as the squiggle at the bottom of the contract shows....

So are you just idly speculating about what his contract was or do you have inside knowledge.

When I said without his agreement, I of course meant without his further agreement at the time of extension, clearly anything in the terms of his contract would count as agreed in the strictest sense. It doesn't mean that person would have to be happy with it at the result a the later date

Neither, simply stating the bleedin' obvious in response to YOUR idle speculation !!

When you sign a contract you agree to the terms. You don't need to go back and get agreement on each point as it kicks in.

Whether someone is happy on not is beside the point really. Antonio got his pro break and (presumably with appropriate advice) considered the terms on offer to be fair. Your use of 'strictest' is irrelevant, the terms apply and all parties willingly agreed to them.

He's also not really in a position to make a fuss about it, however you look at it.

[Ian Royal]

Are you some sort of lawyer? The way you argue off at complete tangents steering away from the actual point is incredible.

The question was simple. Are you speculating about the terms of his contract being that we had the option to extend without his need to sign on to it further, or have you got some inside knowledge?

Because if you don't know exactly what his contract says, which is what I asked, then your posts are certainly idle speculation dressed up as fact. Which is rather different to my posts which are quite clearly presented as supposition on my part.