Comments from other clubs' fans on sig...

[Barry the bird boggler]

Name a Championship side who could afford to turn down £7 Million for one of their players?? Enough said.

We turned down £10 million for Wickham from 'Arry Redknapp.

That's 10million we would have had if Conor's family hadn't decided to move to Colchester, grrrr!

[Barry the bird boggler]

The club has thrown us a sop with Kingfisherwilly and are hoping we fall hook, line and sinker with the addition of Harte and, probably, Hendrie.

Perhaps they are quietly hoping Jake Taylor will prove to be better than Sigurdsson.....

[Row Z Royal]

Just remind me how Madejski "pockets" the money. Thanks.

[RoyalBlue]

I know other fans think this as well, I work with a Spurs STH and an Aldershot STH and the first thing they said was that Madelski would keep most of the cash. Spurs fan thinks if we'd spent a bit more of the money at the end of our fisrt season in the prem we would still be there now.

Madejski also has that reputation (not prompted by me) amongst supporters of other clubs I know. Generally the view is that his talk and ego greatly outweighs his delivery.

Just remind me how Madejski "pockets" the money. Thanks.

Your starter for one:

What were once portrayed as gifts by some appearing to turn into loans.

Further info may or may not be forthcoming when the club is finally under new management.

[Barry the bird boggler]

He did deliver and then was let down by a "legend"....

Now he can no longer deliver due to the financial state of the country and continued insistence that the club cannot live beyond its means (despite nearly all other clubs continuously living beyond their means).

Still, better to safely be making up the numbers I suppose....

[Blue Hooped Moose]

What were once portrayed as gifts by some appearing to turn into loans.

I don't think JM ever said his money was a gift - I remember at Mark White's testimonial hearing a conversation with the then board members about how we, as a club, were paying interest on the loan he had provided.

[philM]

I know other fans think this as well, I work with a Spurs STH and an Aldershot STH and the first thing they said was that Madelski would keep most of the cash. Spurs fan thinks if we'd spent a bit more of the money at the end of our fisrt season in the prem we would still be there now.

Madejski also has that reputation (not prompted by me) amongst supporters of other clubs I know. Generally the view is that his talk and ego greatly outweighs his delivery.

Just remind me how Madejski "pockets" the money. Thanks.

Your starter for one:

What were once portrayed as gifts by some appearing to turn into loans.

Further info may or may not be forthcoming when the club is finally under new management.

A company Director can't make "gifts" to their company. Any money they put in is entered as a Director's loan in the accounts.

A Director can only get money out of their business through either salary+bonus or dividends or repayment of loans, all of which are fully documented in the accounts. The only other way is to sell some or all of their shares.

[Row Z Royal]

I know other fans think this as well, I work with a Spurs STH and an Aldershot STH and the first thing they said was that Madelski would keep most of the cash. Spurs fan thinks if we'd spent a bit more of the money at the end of our fisrt season in the prem we would still be there now.

Madejski also has that reputation (not prompted by me) amongst supporters of other clubs I know. Generally the view is that his talk and ego greatly outweighs his delivery.

Just remind me how Madejski "pockets" the money. Thanks.

Your starter for one:

What were once portrayed as gifts by some appearing to turn into loans.

Further info may or may not be forthcoming when the club is finally under new management.

A company Director can't make "gifts" to their company. Any money they put in is entered as a Director's loan in the accounts.

A Director can only get money out of their business through either salary+bonus or dividends or repayment of loans, all of which are fully documented in the accounts. The only other way is to sell some or all of their shares.

What've you got then, RoyalBlue?

[Tony Le Mesmer]

£10m

As if anyone would bid that, let alone turn it down.

[No Hoops]

£10m

As if anyone would bid that, let alone turn it down.

I LOL too

[LoyalRoyal22]

I heard Ipswich trying to offload Conor Wickham for 2Million

[Hoop Blah]

I don't see how we can have had a £3m release clause if we ended up selling him for £6m+ though.

Because there were more than just the one club trying to buy him, the release clause was not the same as Hunts, RFC have learnt from that mistake.

You'll have to explain to me how that works then?

It's release clause that doesn't set a minimum value to trigger it? It's just one that says if someone bids they have to accept the highest bid or something?

[Tredder]

Seriously, get a pfucking grip, 2 seasons in the premiership has gone to your heads, the player in question expressed a desire to leave if the right opportunity came along, it did, and Reading negotiated the best deal they could, he went for 6 million quid, he cost you pfuck all, unless you are a one man team, then it's good business, the club has to finance itself somehow, the crowds are down, but still far greater than they were 10/15 years ago.
You used to mock clubs like QPR, Leeds, Forest etc.. for thinking they had some divine right to the elite division, no one has that, no matter what infrastructure they have in place, you have a sound ground, sound financial status and an academy that is producing great talent, sometimes, offers come in that far exceed any expectation, this time was one, so stop bleating about Gylfis name on a shirt, dogs called Gylfi, shirts needing to be signed before people croke it and Madejski being a waste of space, Reading are what they are, and like most of the women i root, we are both, on ocasions, punching well above our weight.

[Wimb]

at the last bit

but otherwise well said Tredders

[Who Moved The Goalposts?]

Seriously, get a pfucking grip, 2 seasons in the premiership has gone to your heads, the player in question expressed a desire to leave if the right opportunity came along, it did, and Reading negotiated the best deal they could, he went for 6 million quid, he cost you pfuck all, unless you are a one man team, then it's good business, the club has to finance itself somehow, the crowds are down, but still far greater than they were 10/15 years ago.
You used to mock clubs like QPR, Leeds, Forest etc.. for thinking they had some divine right to the elite division, no one has that, no matter what infrastructure they have in place, you have a sound ground, sound financial status and an academy that is producing great talent, sometimes, offers come in that far exceed any expectation, this time was one, so stop bleating about Gylfis name on a shirt, dogs called Gylfi, shirts needing to be signed before people croke it and Madejski being a waste of space, Reading are what they are, and like most of the women i root, we are both, on ocasions, punching well above our weight.

A good read and pretty much spot on.

I don't agree we are punching above our weight though. I think we are at just the right level our infrastructure and ongoing business plan can support (ie lower to mid championship).

[rhroyal]

Seriously, get a pfucking grip, 2 seasons in the premiership has gone to your heads, the player in question expressed a desire to leave if the right opportunity came along, it did, and Reading negotiated the best deal they could, he went for 6 million quid, he cost you pfuck all, unless you are a one man team, then it's good business, the club has to finance itself somehow, the crowds are down, but still far greater than they were 10/15 years ago.
You used to mock clubs like QPR, Leeds, Forest etc.. for thinking they had some divine right to the elite division, no one has that, no matter what infrastructure they have in place, you have a sound ground, sound financial status and an academy that is producing great talent, sometimes, offers come in that far exceed any expectation, this time was one, so stop bleating about Gylfis name on a shirt, dogs called Gylfi, shirts needing to be signed before people croke it and Madejski being a waste of space, Reading are what they are, and like most of the women i root, we are both, on ocasions, punching well above our weight.

Of course we had to sell Gylfi. However our activity since shows how much ambition we really have. I don't care if we can't quite compete with the best in this league, so long as we try the best with the resources we have.

We were told at the start of the summer there was a £4mill deficit to fill. People have listed ins and outs on various threads and we've more than filled that, yet we still haven't strengthened our attacking options. Conclusion? We're not making the best of our resources and doing the best we can.

It appears that we are happy with our achievements of the last 10 years, to the extent that there is no motivation to push ourselves again. That hurts.

[RobRoyal]

We've made £25m in player sales over three years (EDIT: net profit not gross!)

You don't have to feel we have a divine right to the Premiership, or even to holding on to our best assets, to feel a bit mugged by the lack of serious investment in the playing squad.

So quieten down and move along now, will you?

[Norfolk Royal]

What you should also recognise Tredder is that football provokes emotions in the fans which don't necessarily tie in with the business ideals of the owners. If you remove emotion from football then it becomes commonplace and loses the passion which encourages so many people to pay money to watch it.

Some people have said on the thread that they are surprised that contributors to the various threads are surprised about Gylffi going.

It is not surprise, it is shock, shock that the club's best player will no longer be there any more, irrespective of the wider issues.

[Row Z Royal]

Of course we had to sell Gylfi. However our activity since shows how much ambition we really have.

1 day.

There's ambitious and there's stupid.

[rob the royal]

Of course we had to sell Gylfi. However our activity since shows how much ambition we really have. I don't care if we can't quite compete with the best in this league, so long as we try the best with the resources we have.

We were told at the start of the summer there was a £4mill deficit to fill. People have listed ins and outs on various threads and we've more than filled that, yet we still haven't strengthened our attacking options. Conclusion? We're not making the best of our resources and doing the best we can.

It appears that we are happy with our achievements of the last 10 years, to the extent that there is no motivation to push ourselves again. That hurts.

What he said.