Man City Tickets

[TFF]

Joke, now man city have opened one of there third tiers. only one tier to go and its sold out. joke and reading said they would not open the third tier, due to safety reasons lies lies lies

Not quite,

The Man City safety officer won't allow RFC fans the third tier. Policing two separate entrances into the ground and segregating fans in the stadium being two reasons.

I've no problem with any of that.

Can't blame City for allowing STHs adjacent to our section to retain their seats, they're looking after their fans. Can't blame City for maximising revenue by opening another tier nor for refusing to bear the cost of extra police/stewarding.

The error was all RFC's when they said "2800 please". No point looking beyond that.

[adamh4608]

Joke, now man city have opened one of there third tiers. only one tier to go and its sold out. joke and reading said they would not open the third tier, due to safety reasons lies lies lies

Not quite,

The Man City safety officer won't allow RFC fans the third tier. Policing two separate entrances into the ground and segregating fans in the stadium being two reasons.

I've no problem with any of that.

Can't blame City for allowing STHs adjacent to our section to retain their seats, they're looking after their fans. Can't blame City for maximising revenue by opening another tier nor for refusing to bear the cost of extra police/stewarding.

The error was all RFC's when they said "2800 please". No point looking beyond that.

im saying it reading football club fault not man citys

[leicsRoyal]

A question from me is what was the allocation that City offered us?

The FA state that the visiting club is entitled to 15% allocation for the total area of which tickets are made available for.

If Man City were planning on not opening tier 3 then the allocation would have been 15% of 36,000 = 5,400

Now that tier 3 is being open the allocation would be 15% of 47,000 = 7,100.

Granted it's too late to take a full allocation now but if the above is the case, I hope the club are on the phone saying ' hold on a minute, you've just made another 11,000 tickets avaibable, we'll have our 15% of those please'

[southbank1871]

If we can get this thread to 100 pages that will be further evidence we should have had more tickets. Just 10 more to go...

[Royal Lady]

As previously stated, I think RFC made the mistake of saying they ONLY wanted 2,800 (and they didn't think they'd sell all of them, hence then deciding to offer free travel as an incentive).

If we'd taken the original 15% - 5,200 or whatever it was (OR said we'd take 2,800 as an INITIAL allocation) - then we'd have got more tickets obviously.

We can't go back to them saying we've changed our minds.

[southbank1871]

Hmm, Mike deleted his post, guess he realised he was supposed to have better things to do.

[philM]

Did anyone else spot the message on RFC F'book to JFordham I think, on the day that they announced the 2800, saying that the 2800 was an initial allocation and there would be more if the interest was there?

After the free travel "to all" cockup the next morning the original message was deleted by RFC.

[Royal Lady]

Hmm, Mike deleted his post, guess he realised he was supposed to have better things to do.

What did he say? Did he call me an idiot again?

[leicsRoyal]

As previously stated, I think RFC made the mistake of saying they ONLY wanted 2,800 (and they didn't think they'd sell all of them, hence then deciding to offer free travel as an incentive).

If we'd taken the original 15% - 5,200 or whatever it was (OR said we'd take 2,800 as an INITIAL allocation) - then we'd have got more tickets obviously.

We can't go back to them saying we've changed our minds.

Yes granted and I actually think that City offered us around 6,000. They would have issued a statement to the FA on this based on the whole ground barring Colin Bell level 3 being upon, hence the 15% of the 40,000 reduced capacity. I fully expect the crowd to be something like 39,879.

[Z175]

I fully expect the crowd to be something like 39,879.

I have a feeling that theres plenty of Man City and Reading fans who will fill up this tier so maybe they'll end up opening the whole ground!

[Sidindaclub]

Lets all sit in 309 lets all sit in 309 la la la la

3rd tier open on general sale

[handbags_harris]

I think this is my first foray into this thread, and my own views are that is a balls-up of monumental proportions by RFC. Regardless of whether wewere playing Villa or City, an away FA Cup Quarter Final, in City's case at £15, is going to generate an almost unprecedented level of interest. Throw in free travel, well quite simply you have a mad scramble for tickets even had we had 6000 or so tickets. The club's excuse that we have only taken 3000 to an away game once in three years is ludicrous, are they really that short sighted? There have been many occasions where we have taken many more than that over the last 15-20 years. History shows that when a big, high profile game occurs the town comes alive.

This isn't the first time RFC have cocked up like this, so they have form. Anyone remember Birmingham City away in December 2007? £16 tickets, but the club took a mere 1600 when we had the demand to sell a full 3000 allocation.

Whoever runs the ticket office has clearly come from a regular consumer environment where the mentality of customer is markedly different to the average football fan, and they haven't once consulted fans. Surely it wouldn't be amiss to maybe mailshot the 100 fans with most points to guage their views on demand? Survey the customer base, ask them their views. Anyone with half a brain (and Ratty) would be able to tell them that:

a) an FA Cup Quarter Final
b) at a major club
c) at £15 or £25
d) with free travel thrown in

would generate a massive level of interest.

Lastly, the points bandings. All season long the points badnings have started at 1800 points, heading down through a reasonable scale of 400 points per day or so. Why did they deem it acceptable to change this for the highest profile game we will have all season (bar maybe trips to Wembley and playoff semi's)? 1600 points was way too low, and then to drop it by 1000 after a day? Utter lunacy. Utterly incompetent buffoons at RFC who decided this. Give me the running of the ticket office, this sort of thing wouldn't happen.

[handbags_harris]

By the way, I had no problem getting a ticket

[Hoop Blah]

I can see there being a few questions asked elsewhere after the game.

The Safety Officer, Police and whoever else is concern with fan segregation are surely going to have concerns over the number of away fans in home areas of the ground.

Hopefully it will go smoothly and without incident but with more tickets being sold on general sale there is the potential for problems irrespective of the good nature of those fans (or not). If by some chance it's a close game with a few contentious incidents it could get a little heated.

[brendywendy]

And there are the issues in a nutshell.

The club can defend their decision on the first one (and they have already done so) but the other two are indefensible.

point two is defensible cos at the time they thought they could go back and ask for more, so it would have seriously slowed down the ticket sales of the initial batch which they were trying to sell quickly in order to facilitate getting the next allocation.

there i defended. please take the in, from you defensible.

I don't agree, 600-1600 points is far too wide as a band, expecially considering those that have had a season ticket every season but don't attend many additional matches fall into the 1500 to 1600 point area (like myself) - that is a lot of people.

but it is possible to mount a coherant and sensible defence based on that, which means it is defensible, whether you agree or not.


If as is stated elsewhere the club thought they would be able to get more when the initial bit was announced, and If you accept that a week isnt very long to do it, and If you accept in those circumstances it was very important that we got shot of the initial allocation in a short a time as possible, then surely you must also accept that setting aside two or three days to include smaller bandings wasnt a good idea.

[brendywendy]

point two is defensible cos at the time they thought they could go back and ask for more, so it would have seriously slowed down the ticket sales of the initial batch which they were trying to sell quickly in order to facilitate getting the next allocation.

there i defended. please take the in, from you defensible.

How is point two defensible when they should have known from Wednesday morning that they wouldn't get more tickets?

shoulda woulda coulda.
im not sure what the time lines actually were, and im pretty sure you arent either.
im not even saying its right, im not saying i dont agree that more tickets should have been sourced initially
im just saying it is actually defensible.

[Z175]

I can see there being a few questions asked elsewhere after the game.

The Safety Officer, Police and whoever else is concern with fan segregation are surely going to have concerns over the number of away fans in home areas of the ground.

Hopefully it will go smoothly and without incident but with more tickets being sold on general sale there is the potential for problems irrespective of the good nature of those fans (or not). If by some chance it's a close game with a few contentious incidents it could get a little heated.

I think its unlikely - Everton fans applauded us off after we knocked them out. I think if City lose to Reading they will blame themselves and not get too angry with us.

However a late RFC winner might cause some tensions. If we are 3-0 down with 10 mins to play I would like to think all the fans in the home end would break into reading songs and some good natured banter would ensue.

[brendywendy]

I don't think the club has actually asked for any more tickets, after they made the cockup of offering free travel "to all".Top
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Joke, now man city have opened one of there third tiers. only one tier to go and its sold out. joke and reading said they would not open the third tier, due to safety reasons lies lies lies

now i understand peoples frustrations, (though i dont really understand teh frustrations of those who got their tickets tbf)and i understand that its clear now we should have asked for more tickets here, and that many loyal fans will miss out-though not if its actually very important to them cos theyd just go and sit in the home end


but the above three statements are all pretty much made up personal hyperbole.
you dont know any of that, and until you do, its a bit daft getting all riled up about it.

[Z175]

I think the Club were convinced there would be a replay. I mean we would be very unlikely to win at Goodison straight off and even if we did City Villa could easily be a draw.

The replay dates were monday and last night. Tickets would only be available on Thursday for 1600 and then Friday for the rest - thats why they only took 2,800 as they physically couldnt have sold more over two days.

Its the FAs fault - but RFC just accepted it.

[Para Handy]

point two is defensible cos at the time they thought they could go back and ask for more, so it would have seriously slowed down the ticket sales of the initial batch which they were trying to sell quickly in order to facilitate getting the next allocation.

there i defended. please take the in, from you defensible.

How is point two defensible when they should have known from Wednesday morning that they wouldn't get more tickets?

shoulda woulda coulda.
im not sure what the time lines actually were, and im pretty sure you arent either.
im not even saying its right, im not saying i dont agree that more tickets should have been sourced initially
im just saying it is actually defensible.

I don't know why you're going on about more tickets being sourced initially. Point 2 that Schards made was:

Making the second sale band 600-1600

Actually, I'm pretty sure I know what the time lines were. City started selling seats adjacent to the away support on Wednesday morning. The Reading Official site confirms this. If they didn't know by this point that there weren't going to be more tickets available then that seems remarkably negligent to me. If they did know then they should have adjusted the banding accordingly. Why did they wait until Monday to start selling tickets.