McDermotts thinking on Kebe?

[Winnershroyal]

My thinking on Kebe? If we could get 500k for him in the transfer window we should sell.

Dog shit today.

His body language says he wants out, I agree, if we got anymore than 750k I'd be happy.

[melonhead]

his body language always been teh sdame.

but id cash in too, not that we'll get much

[winchester_royal]

Utter disgrace today.

[robbieroyal]

I know he has a lacklustre approach but he really did look a shambles today.

I've said it before on here, it's clear by his performances, body language and his totally lack of team play that he doesn't want in.

I know it's a big call but BMcD needs to drop him from the squad (for the fact that he's not signing a deal).

Kebe is taking the mick out of this club if he walks away on a free next Summer.

[urz13]

When I think about it for a while, he had an alright game today. Won the ball back a few times (memorably in his own area - then broke upfield), went on a few runs down the wing, was unlucky no-one was alive to his pull back, put in a superb cross for McAnuff to head wide, passed it ok, and made sone decent runs. When his crosses were blocked it was when he had no support behind him. Also, he always seemed to be in space but we didmt utilise that enough. I recall one moment where Cummings was meandering down the wing with jimmy bombing off in front of him. Had cunmings played the pass immediately Kebe would've been away down the wing. However Cummings delayed and delayed so jimmy had to halt his run, cunmings then gave him the ball but jimmy had no-where to go. Just my opinion, but I thought he played well. Not great, but well enough. Will repost on the Brum after match thread.

[Hoop Blah]

his body language always been teh sdame.

but id cash in too, not that we'll get much

Agreed, it's his style, but then I'd argue that apart from a couple of bursts of form he's never really looked that good anyway.

If we could get money for him in January then we should. I can't imagine he'll be up for a move until the summer when he can leave on a free and get himself a better deal elsewhere. Hopefully that's not the case and we can get our money back on him.

I wonder if we'd even get him out the door on a loan deal just to save the wages!

[The Real Sandhurst Royal]

Get rid in January.

Great pace no end product most games.

[Simon's Church]

It's a tough one, if he doesn't improve soon I can't see anyone wanting to sign him in January and if he does improve we'll want to keep hold of him until the summer. How much could we get for him in January, £500,000? Would we then have enough to bring in a decent repalcement? If not we may as well keep him anyway.

[Svlad Cjelli]

Don't we have a replacement in HRK? Last season the more he played the better he was getting, and he really needs a run in the side.

But it's not just about transfer fees - if Kebe isn't going to play (or at least play effectively) then let's get rid for whatever we can get in January. if nothing else let's not pay the wages of someone who'd going to be non-productive for 6 months.

[Mr Angry]

Kebe seems totally lacking the confidence to use his pace to go past an opposing defender, and his crossing (with one exception in the first half) was dire v Brum.

[Wycombe Royal]

Kebe seems totally lacking the confidence to use his pace to go past an opposing defender, and his crossing (with one exception in the first half) was dire v Brum.

To me it appears that confidence isn't the issue, it is more that he just can't be arsed. Give him the ball (to his feet in space) and he'll set off on a run, but don't expect him to have to work for the ball or make runs off the ball because he won't.

[Hoop Blah]

Kebe seems totally lacking the confidence to use his pace to go past an opposing defender, and his crossing (with one exception in the first half) was dire v Brum.

To me it appears that confidence isn't the issue, it is more that he just can't be arsed. Give him the ball (to his feet in space) and he'll set off on a run, but don't expect him to have to work for the ball or make runs off the ball because he won't.

Agreed WR, although sometimes a lack of confidence just means you're too scared to try the things that aren't the easy and safe option. Never being his biggest fan I just think his poor play (and apparent effort levels) isn't carried enough by his good play so he shouldn't be in the side anyway.

[Svlad Cjelli]

Agreed completely.

I've posted a few times already that think we're a much more creative, effective and balanced team without him, so I'll suggest that the most we use him is as an impact sub in the last 20 minutes of games, when he can run at tired defences. But as a starter? - nien danke.

[Bandini]

Don't we have a replacement in HRK? Last season the more he played the better he was getting, and he really needs a run in the side.

But it's not just about transfer fees - if Kebe isn't going to play (or at least play effectively) then let's get rid for whatever we can get in January. if nothing else let's not pay the ways of someone who'd going to be non-productive for 6 months.

100% agreed, especially re HRK.

[Hoop Blah]

Don't we have a replacement in HRK? Last season the more he played the better he was getting, and he really needs a run in the side.

But it's not just about transfer fees - if Kebe isn't going to play (or at least play effectively) then let's get rid for whatever we can get in January. if nothing else let's not pay the ways of someone who'd going to be non-productive for 6 months.

100% agreement on the second point Dirk, he'll be on a hefty whack (for some reason) and if we're not getting anything out of him then we should look to get him off the wage bill as soon as we can. We only paid something like £400k for him didn't we? It's not like we're ever going to get a massive fee for him anyway either.

Robson-Kanu is an odd one. He looks like he's come on leaps and bounds at times but at other times he still looks a bit out of his depth and a bit like a rabbit in the headlights. I wonder how his development has suffered from being primed as our next centre forward earlier in the season and then getting dumped from the side for Simon Church. That can't be good for anyones confidence!

I'd certainly be playing McAnuff and Robson-Kanu on the wings for the next couple of games if I were McDermott but ultimately we need to get someone in to add a bit of a creative spark somewhere.

[Tilehurst End]

Presumably he's on fairly decent money at the moment. Be surprised if he could match that in France.

Allegedly thinks he's worth £25k a week, does not want to be here and is not going to risk injury.

Have leapt to his defence in the past but waste of space yesterday and taking the place of players who, although they may not have the same ability, want to play for the club.

Sorry Jimmy, thanks for the memories but time to "rot in the reserves".

[Simon's Church]

Don't we have a replacement in HRK? Last season the more he played the better he was getting, and he really needs a run in the side.

But it's not just about transfer fees - if Kebe isn't going to play (or at least play effectively) then let's get rid for whatever we can get in January. if nothing else let's not pay the wages of someone who'd going to be non-productive for 6 months.

But HRK has hardly exactly shone this season either and that would leave us with Antonio/Obita as first choice back-up with 2 championship starts between them.

[loyalroyal4life]

My thinking on Kebe? If we could get 500k for him in the transfer window we should sell.

If we get £250k for him take it, we paid £400k, he can sign on with other clubs in January for when his contract runs out, heart aint in it and certainly won't be if he signs with another club, take any money and get someone with motivation and passion in

[Svlad Cjelli]

Don't we have a replacement in HRK? Last season the more he played the better he was getting, and he really needs a run in the side.

But it's not just about transfer fees - if Kebe isn't going to play (or at least play effectively) then let's get rid for whatever we can get in January. if nothing else let's not pay the wages of someone who'd going to be non-productive for 6 months.

But HRK has hardly exactly shone this season either and that would leave us with Antonio/Obita as first choice back-up with 2 championship starts between them.

Yeah, but HRK shows signs of improving, and he's hardly had a run in the team yet - last season when he played more games he improved all the time.

Someone committed and trying their best >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone who can't be arsed, no matter how talented they are.

[facaldaqui]

I loved Jimmy prior to this season Kebe

but if he's not signing I don't think we should play him

He doesn't look like he cares, and that's a huge shame.

I think players always care and are always trying their best. Even if he wants to leave, he will want to play well to earn a good move. The problem is psychological: if you want to leave, with the best will in the world something goes from your performance. We've seen it with Shorey, we've seen it with Stephen Hunt--both very genuine, hard-working players. It's a pity when it happens, but all I'm saying is that it's a bit more complex than not caring.