Brighton & Hove Albion Predictions

[Svlad Cjelli]

"were targetted because of the city's large gay population". No shit, sherlock.

I'm sorry, I don't understand the point you're making here.

Is there really something offensive about "does your boyfriend know you're hear?" Certainly nothing homophobic about anal sex references, given this is certainly not restricted to the gay community.

The spelling is pretty offensive But I think you'll find that legally this would be deemed "offensive".

I hate the way these things are always reported without what was actually said being quoted. It shouldn't be hidden, it should be in the open what was said and what was unacceptable. It would help define the boundary between acceptable and not acceptable. Simply reprinting when it's central to the whole story isn't offensive or wrong.

I'm sorry, again I don't understand the point you're making. And just how do you define what is and isn't acceptable?

In any case, I'm not trying to make any point here myself - I'm just trying to make supporters understand the current attitude within the game.

[Fox Talbot]

Reading 4
Bumton and Homo Albion* 0

*© Spacey

Just FTR, police and courts are clamping down on homophobia at football matches -it's a high priority issue at the moment.

More or less high than anti-racism, grieving for Gary Speed, poppies on shirts??

I wish we could kick football back into football sometimes.

No offence intended to Dirk who is merely the purveyor of others priorities.

[Ian Royal]

"were targetted because of the city's large gay population". No shit, sherlock.

I'm sorry, I don't understand the point you're making here.

Is there really something offensive about "does your boyfriend know you're hear?" Certainly nothing homophobic about anal sex references, given this is certainly not restricted to the gay community.

The spelling is pretty offensive But I think you'll find that legally this would be deemed "offensive".

I hate the way these things are always reported without what was actually said being quoted. It shouldn't be hidden, it should be in the open what was said and what was unacceptable. It would help define the boundary between acceptable and not acceptable. Simply reprinting when it's central to the whole story isn't offensive or wrong.

I'm sorry, again I don't understand the point you're making. And just how do you define what is and isn't acceptable?

In any case, I'm not trying to make any point here myself - I'm just trying to make supporters understand the current attitude within the game.

Not saying you are trying to make a point Dirk.

First quote - the comment in the article about the reason Brighton gets "homophobic" banter is because it has a large gay community, kinda goes without saying really. That's the point I was making (badly).

Second quote - then I believe the law is an ass, sir. Though I agree my spelling is criminal their (sic).

Third quote - whenever there is racist or homophobic, or sexists comments, what's actually been said is often left out as. As if printing it is somehow offensive. I don't agree with sweeping things under the carpet like that.

Report clearly on what was said that was worthy of punishable. Even if people don't agree with that, it helps clearly establish what you can and can't get away with, for people who might perhaps otherwise not have known different. -> See the Hansen "coloured" thread for example. That's quoted, so people know what was said.

The article about the homophobic convictions has no indication of what was said. So there's no indication of what is acceptable "banter" and what is offensive homophobia.


And apologies for hijacking the thread.

[Bandini]

John Hewitt, the chairman of Brighton and Hove Albion Supporters’ Club, said: “We get it everywhere we go".

Top boasting, but in the circumstances he can hardly be surprised if there's the odd chant about it.

[RFCSPACE]

As we're in touching distance of the playoffs I expect we will come short when now is the time to push on. 2-2 draw.

[Svlad Cjelli]

John Hewitt, the chairman of Brighton and Hove Albion Supporters’ Club, said: “We get it everywhere we go".

Top boasting, but in the circumstances he can hardly be surprised if there's the odd chant about it.

TBF, they do get homophobic chants - to one degree or another - at virtually every game they go. It's a permament bone of contention for them.

[Bandini]

John Hewitt, the chairman of Brighton and Hove Albion Supporters’ Club, said: “We get it everywhere we go".

Top boasting, but in the circumstances he can hardly be surprised if there's the odd chant about it.

TBF, they do get homophobic chants - to one degree or another - at virtually every game they go. It's a permament bone of contention for them.

That'll be the poppers.

[Mr Angry]

The question is though; are puns and wordplay based on the act of homosexuality homophobic even though the poster may not intend to be acting in a consciously homophobic manner??

[Svlad Cjelli]

The question is though; are puns and wordplay based on the act of homosexuality homophobic even though the poster may not intend to be acting in a consciously homophobic manner??

Precedent would suggest that the police and magistrates don't really take such linguistic subtleties into account. Even more so in the period before two major tournaments - which always lead to a number of banning orders - and where the whole question of abuse in football is very topical.

Also, Brighton supporters' organisations will have almost certainly have contacted RFC and TVP about the issue of homophobia, so they'll be on the lookout for it. And if you want your average steward to appreciate linguistic subtleties then you really are clutching at straws.

[rhroyal]

There is definitely a harmless line which I don't see Reading fans stepping over. I remember a few years ago singing "We can see you holding hands." and "Does your boyfriend know you're here". Nobody in their right mind will pursue action over chants like that. I'm guessing those arrested in the article were saying altogether much more crude and offensive.

[Svlad Cjelli]

There is definitely a harmless line which I don't see Reading fans stepping over. I remember a few years ago singing "We can see you holding hands." and "Does your boyfriend know you're here". Nobody in their right mind will pursue action over chants like that. I'm guessing those arrested in the article were saying altogether much more crude and offensive.

You may think that. I'm not sure the Brighton supporters, or the Police etc, agree with that.

[SWLR]

Back to the Topic.

We are on a roll, they have injuries & suspensions, so in true Championship tradition

Reading 1- Brighton 2.

Other predictions
My man-flu will not have cleared up and my wife will berate me for going.
The row in front of me will all be missing the Ipswich game, with said flu.

[Stuka]

Is there really something offensive about "does your boyfriend know you're hear?"

Reading the article you would have thought it'd been worse than that.

Could have been something about bareback riding, dogging, twinkies or god knows what else.

['lista]

We're gonna f uck them benders in the arse 5-0.

[Svlad Cjelli]

Reading the article you would have thought it'd been worse than that.

We're gonna f uck them benders in the arse 5-0.

Yes, that'd be the type of thing.

[Cripple Creek]

Would it be skating on thin ice if we all start singing "I will survive" or a medley of old Judy Garland songs on Boxing Day?

['lista]

"Sweetcorn on your bell-end"

"You've got sweetcorn on your bell-end"

"Sweetcorn on your BEEELLL EENND"

[Franchise FC]

27-0

10 church
7 le fondre
5 HRK
3 pearce
2mcanuff

All believable until McAnuff - TWO in one game - that's just silly

[Ian Royal]

Would it be skating on thin ice if we all start singing "I will survive" or a medley of old Judy Garland songs on Boxing Day?

Perhaps a rousing chorus of "YMCA"?

[Stuka]

"Sweetcorn on your bell-end"

"You've got sweetcorn on your bell-end"

"Sweetcorn on your BEEELLL EENND"