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Re: When the Strikers Score etc

by Platypuss » 10 Feb 2012 12:49

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Re: When the Strikers Score etc

by Snowball » 10 Feb 2012 14:21

Minutes Goals

Church Best Starting Striker in Minutes per Goal


1,384 Start for 4 Goals = 0,364 Mins per Goal ... Church

1,382 Start for 3 Goals = 0,461 Mins per Goal ... Le Fondre

1,342 Start for 2 Goals = 0,671 Mins per Goal ... Hunt

1,026 Start for 1 Goals = 1,026 Mins per Goal ... HRK

0,276 Start for 0 Goals = 9,999 Mins per Goal ... Manset

0,077 Start for 1 Goals = 0.077 Mins per Goal Roberts (Added for future reference)


Interesting that Hunt-Church-Le Fondre are virtually identical on minutes when starting


Church Best Sub Scorer in Minutes per Goal


085 Sub Minutes for 2 Goals = 043 Mins per Goal Church

161 Sub Minutes for 3 Goals = 054 Mins per Goal Le Fondre

170 Sub Minutes for 3 Goals = 057 Mins per Goal Manset

240 Sub Minutes for 2 Goals = 120 Mins per Goal HRK

171 Sub Minutes for 1 Goals = 171 Mins per Goal Hunt

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Re: When the Strikers Score etc

by Snowball » 10 Feb 2012 14:22

I confess to being quite shocked by those figures

I think of Alf and Hunt as way ahead of Churchy as strikers
but there are the figures!!


Churchy also figures well in terms of shooting efficiency

3 Goals in 08 Attempts = 1 in 02.67 Manset

6 Goals in 24 Attempts = 1 in 04.00 Church

1 Goals in 04 Attempts = 1 in 04.00 Roberts (added only for further reference)
3 Goals in 16 Attempts = 1 in 05.33 Pearce
4 Goals in 24 Attempts = 1 in 06.00 Hunt
3 Goals in 23 Attempts = 1 in 07.67 HRK
2 Goals in 18 Attempts = 1 in 09.00 Kebe
4 Goals in 46 Attempts = 1 in 11.50 McAnuff


For comparison Shane Long scored 21 league Goals in 95 Attempts last season.
That is a hit rate of 1 in 4.52 = WORSE THAN Church

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Re: When the Strikers Score etc

by paultheroyal » 10 Feb 2012 14:35

Sorry Snowball, but I have now officially lost the will to live with your statistics and for me are a total borefest and information overkill.

Admire your perseverance though.

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Re: When the Strikers Score etc

by Ian Royal » 10 Feb 2012 14:44

Seeing as I've been invited to comment and I'm enjoying this thread so much, it's weird that he continues to post so many statistics which very few people appear interested in. He appears to be using a public forum to talk to himself. See in particular one of his other threads where about 90% of the posts on the last few pages are all his updating his own information.

You'd think he'd take the hint that no one gives a crap and most of the maturer posters with half a brain consider his statistics to be at best badly flawed and at worst just plain wrong.

I've been accused of never admitting I'm wrong before, but I've never seen anyone carry on in such a pathetic and childish manner in the face of overwhelming evidence and opinion they're wrong. Either he is genuinely troubled mentally or he is just a very very persistent and talented troll.

oh yeah, and just to keep him happy. :lol:


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Re: When the Strikers Score etc

by Extended-Phenotype » 10 Feb 2012 14:50

Noballs:

Fck man, how much heroin did your mother DO during her pregnancy?

1. I don’t have to PROVE anything. The fixture list demonstrates that Reading, like every other team in a league system, doesn’t just play the same team 46 times a season. That’s why they travel to different towns every other weekend. The two teams aren’t on f/cking tour.

2. If you ever manage to drag yourself out of your piss-stained, windowless cell full of makeshift lego dildo’s and tearful cleenex, you might notice that these games are not only played against different opponents but that different things happen in them. That’s because they are a DIFFERENT FCKING GAME, retard*.

*(I’m aware you are merely approaching retardation, but in everyday discourse I am more than happy to refer to you as retarded).

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Re: When the Strikers Score etc

by Snowball » 10 Feb 2012 15:10

E-P thank-you for confirming your idiocy

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Re: When the Strikers Score etc

by Extended-Phenotype » 10 Feb 2012 15:19

If you thought I was sane, I’d section myself.

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Re: When the Strikers Score etc

by Ian Herring » 10 Feb 2012 16:06

The couple of times I've alluded to the gentleman known as Snowball being slightly ever so...unbalanced, he (or maybe she) has retorted as per his/her internet persona - i.e. with a response you might describe as (at its politest), anally-retentive and (at its least so) that of someone in the midst of some deeply-disturbed episode of paranoia.

When they joined this board, I thought, here's a stats-geek willing to add to the football ferment with some numbers. No different to any other interested party really, doesn't matter what your poison is; trains, basketball, any old shit really, someone's going to want to do the analysis.

Harmless enough, yeah?

He/she was welcomed aboard by most and (to my surprise at their mildness) is still treated with some decent rectitude by the inmates herein on this portal.

Yet...this individual seems to be quite touchy - not about somethings, but about almost everything. Any questioning of his/her facts/walking/ipad dilemmas/writing skills, yadda yadda yadda, seems to bring forward increasing bluster and CAPS LOCK indignation.

I think I made an observation on AE that some of his/her posts were at times condescending and (heaven forfend) tedious.

Now, having seen the lengths this person goes to 'drill down' into a game of football (for ffs!) and at the same time seeing his/her response to the (increasing) amount of posters he/she appears to be upsetting with some quite frankly rudeness (unjustified)...

...I'm beginning to think that Snowball is the kind of person who would eventually, if behaving in a similar way face to face, annoy the less-tolerant amongst us to the point where we might want to...well...I think the best way to describe it would be to say 'lose one's cool'.

I don't know the person from Adam (and frankly hope that I never meet such a total bore) but really, the persona he/she exhibits here is one that seems quite deranged.

Anyway, *awaits usual sarcastic tart response*.


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Re: When the Strikers Score etc

by Maguire » 10 Feb 2012 16:13

Snowball Minutes Goals

Church Best Starting Striker in Minutes per Goal


1,384 Start for 4 Goals = 0,364 Mins per Goal ... Church

0,077 Start for 1 Goals = 0.077 Mins per Goal Roberts


:?

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Re: When the Strikers Score etc

by chilipepper91 » 10 Feb 2012 16:25

Maguire
Snowball Minutes Goals

Church Best Starting Striker in Minutes per Goal


1,384 Start for 4 Goals = 0,364 Mins per Goal ... Church

0,077 Start for 1 Goals = 0.077 Mins per Goal Roberts


:?


Nah he needs to play at least 6 games to settle into the team

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Re: When the Strikers Score etc

by Snowball » 10 Feb 2012 20:55

Maguire
Snowball Minutes Goals

Church Best Starting Striker in Minutes per Goal


1,384 Start for 4 Goals = 0,364 Mins per Goal ... Church

0,077 Start for 1 Goals = 0,077 Mins per Goal Roberts


:?


Don't be a total dickhead all your life. Take a night off.

It is extremely likely that Roberts will turn out to be the best striker on our books
but the idea that we'd say someone was the best minute-per-goal striker after
77 minutes is just laughable.

I'm convinced you clowns just look for ANYTHING to rock the boat.


Of course, if Roberts plays the next 18 games and maintains his goal-per-minute ratio
then we will be champions.

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Re: When the Strikers Score etc

by Snowball » 10 Feb 2012 20:56

Extended-Phenotype If you thought I was sane, I’d section myself.


idiocy isn't insanity


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Re: When the Strikers Score etc

by Snowball » 10 Feb 2012 21:01

Ian Herring
He/she was welcomed aboard by most and (to my surprise at their mildness) is still treated with some decent rectitude by the inmates herein on this portal.



Do you deny the Holocaust too?

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Re: When the Strikers Score etc

by Snowball » 10 Feb 2012 21:40

Strikers on the pitch at the same time

Goals, Total Minutes, Goals scored by either striker, Minutes per goal

In Order of Striker Productivity

Goals are goals scored by a striker, one of the pair, while the pair were on the field.

7 671 096 Mins per goal Hunt - Le Fondre
7 946 135 Mins per goal Church-Le Fondre
4 570 142 Mins per goal Hunt - HRK
1 157 157 Mins per goal Hunt-Manset
1 172 172 Mins per goal HRK-Manset
1 204 204 Mins per goal Le Fondre-Manset
3 665 222 Mins per goal Church-Hunt
3 782 261 Mins per goal Le Fondre - HRK
1 730 730 Mins per goal Church - HRK
0 023 --- Mins per goal Church-Manset


Interesting the Le Fondre features in the top two most productive pairs

Please note there are games where four of the 5 players were on the pitch
at the same time and in many cases HRK was not playing as a striker


In Order of Total Minutes

7 946 135 Mins per goal Church-Le Fondre
3 782 261 Mins per goal Le Fondre - HRK
1 730 730 Mins per goal Church - HRK
7 671 096 Mins per goal Hunt - Le Fondre
3 665 222 Mins per goal Church-Hunt
4 570 142 Mins per goal Hunt- HRK
1 204 204 Mins per goal Le Fondre-Manset
1 172 172 Mins per goal HRK-Manset
1 157 157 Mins per goal Hunt-Maset
0 023 999 Mins per goal Church-Manset

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Re: When the Strikers Score etc

by exileinleeds » 10 Feb 2012 21:59

Ian Herring The couple of times I've alluded to the gentleman known as Snowball being slightly ever so...unbalanced, he (or maybe she) has retorted as per his/her internet persona - i.e. with a response you might describe as (at its politest), anally-retentive and (at its least so) that of someone in the midst of some deeply-disturbed episode of paranoia.

When they joined this board, I thought, here's a stats-geek willing to add to the football ferment with some numbers. No different to any other interested party really, doesn't matter what your poison is; trains, basketball, any old shit really, someone's going to want to do the analysis.

Harmless enough, yeah?

He/she was welcomed aboard by most and (to my surprise at their mildness) is still treated with some decent rectitude by the inmates herein on this portal.

Yet...this individual seems to be quite touchy - not about somethings, but about almost everything. Any questioning of his/her facts/walking/ipad dilemmas/writing skills, yadda yadda yadda, seems to bring forward increasing bluster and CAPS LOCK indignation.

I think I made an observation on AE that some of his/her posts were at times condescending and (heaven forfend) tedious.

Now, having seen the lengths this person goes to 'drill down' into a game of football (for ffs!) and at the same time seeing his/her response to the (increasing) amount of posters he/she appears to be upsetting with some quite frankly rudeness (unjustified)...

...I'm beginning to think that Snowball is the kind of person who would eventually, if behaving in a similar way face to face, annoy the less-tolerant amongst us to the point where we might want to...well...I think the best way to describe it would be to say 'lose one's cool'.

I don't know the person from Adam (and frankly hope that I never meet such a total bore) but really, the persona he/she exhibits here is one that seems quite deranged.

Anyway, *awaits usual sarcastic tart response*.



CBA to type all of that.

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Re: When the Strikers Score etc

by Maguire » 10 Feb 2012 22:51

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Snowball Minutes Goals

Church Best Starting Striker in Minutes per Goal


1,384 Start for 4 Goals = 0,364 Mins per Goal ... Church

0,077 Start for 1 Goals = 0,077 Mins per Goal Roberts


:?


Don't be a total dickhead all your life. Take a night off.


It's sad that you've resorted to yet more unprovoked personal abuse. The lessons i've taught you this week must really have hurt.

the idea that we'd say someone was the best minute-per-goal striker after
77 minutes is just laughable.


Well your other variable is goals and you're happy to use that when the totals involved have scored so few.

Not to say that I think Roberts goals per min is statistically significant, but it is technically better than Simon Church's which kind of holes your argument below the waterline.

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Re: When the Strikers Score etc

by Ian Herring » 10 Feb 2012 23:43

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Ian Herring
He/she was welcomed aboard by most and (to my surprise at their mildness) is still treated with some decent rectitude by the inmates herein on this portal.



Do you deny the Holocaust too?



Case closed, M'lud.

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Re: When the Strikers Score etc

by Snowball » 11 Feb 2012 08:11

Maguire


It's sad that you've resorted to yet more unprovoked personal abuse. The lessons i've taught you this week must really have hurt.



These threads amuse me. They are packed to the gunnels with people abusing ME
but it seems that calling someone a dickhead has the same weight as me being called
"mentally ill", "sick', "deranged", "a liar", "anally-retentive" etc etc etc

But you ARE a dickhead. I'm stating that as a perceived fact, not as abuse.

This was a thread doing nobody any harm until you decided to come in and oxf*rd it up with your inane.

276/0 = 9999 That's incorrect. Comment

We know that the 9999 is there to represent a very large amount of minutes
and to keep the table showing minutes for goals lined up.

But nevertheless, your life is so tiny that you have to post your pointless post

Then when I say "Typing infinity is difficult" you EXULT. Woopdeedooh Snowball has
made a mistake. LIKE A VIEW ON INFINITY ACTUALLY MATTERS


We then get the usual HNA Bear-Baiting few days where the usual suspects
pile in just to pummel the individual of choice. Real men would just back away
form this pathetic cyber-bullying.


the idea that we'd say someone was the best minute-per-goal striker after
77 minutes is just laughable.


Well your other variable is goals and you're happy to use that when the totals involved have scored so few.



Once again, HNA revealing poor logic. It's MINUTES per goal and the minutes for Hunt, Church, le Fondre ARE significant.

If one of these had got a dozen goals we'd not be arguing about it. If one had failed to score in their 1300+ minutes
we'd have a different view. But they HAVE scored 6-6-3 goals and they've had assists, and suddenly, when assists
are taken into consideration then the stats fall into line with the subjective evaluations of these three players.

Update after BRISTOL

1,543 Minutes 11 Major Contributions one every 140 Minutes 6 Goals 05 Assists ALF (RFC Games)
1,549 Minutes 11 Major Contributions one every 140 Minutes 2 Goals 09 Assists KEBE (according to the OS)
0,446 Minutes 03 Major Contributions one every 147 Minutes 3 Goals 00 Assists MANSET (Insufficient minutes to judge stats?)
1,549 Minutes 09 Major Contributions one every 171 Minutes 2 Goals 07 Assists KEBE (according to my stats)
1,513 Minutes 08 Major Contributions one every 187 Minutes 3 Goals 05 Assists HUNT
1,469 Minutes 07 Major Contributions one every 210 Minutes 6 Goals 01 Assists CHURCH

I need to check as I have Kebe down as 7 assists and so does a stats site I check,
but the OS says 6 assists in Club Stats but talks about him having 9 when bigging him up.





Not to say that I think Roberts goals per min is statistically significant, but it is
technically better than Simon Church's which kind of holes your argument below the waterline.


Definitions again. I've not been using Manset's stats with anything like the certainty of Hunt-Church-Le Fondre
because he's only had 446 minutes. And of course, if i REALLY argued that he was a better striker, and up there
with Le Fondre, you and the usual suspects would pile in, laughing at a stat based on "only" 446 minutes.

I put Roberts in there merely as a reference AND SAID SO. If we were to use your ridiculous (pointlessly provocative)
statistical measures then Cywka comes out best with a Major Contribution every 8 minutes


Just admit it, you look for anything to rock the boat with.

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Re: When the Strikers Score etc

by Platypuss » 11 Feb 2012 08:20

Snowball Woopdeedooh Snowball has
made a mistake.


:shock:

And again.

Snowball Woopdeedooh Snowball has
made a mistake.


:shock:

I'm just off to do some tobogganning in Hades

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