The Gr8 Keeper Deb8

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Re: The Gr8 Keeper Deb8

by Royal Biscuitman » 20 Sep 2012 09:32

robbieroyal Presumably if Feds wants to continue his career here he will have to release a statement diffusing the situation?

Some fans already are not gonna forgive him....

Reminds me of Phil Whitehead who threw his gloves down and stormed off the pitch in the warm up after Marcus Hahemann signed permanently and got a massive cheer when his name was read out.

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Re: The Gr8 Keeper Deb8

by melonhead » 20 Sep 2012 09:41

Stuboo http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11673/8091900/

Not sure what BMc is going on about here. Not sure he's telling the full truth. Depends what he means by unrest. Very wooly statement.


looks pretty simple clear and explicit to me

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Re: The Gr8 Keeper Deb8

by HoneyRoastHoax » 20 Sep 2012 09:43

woooooldy flames

did i use it right?

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by cmonurz » 20 Sep 2012 10:00

HoneyRoastHoax woooooldy flames

did i use it right?


Getting to the point I might bin Karacan from my Twitter. What on earth does that even mean?

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Re: The Gr8 Keeper Deb8

by mr_number » 20 Sep 2012 10:26

I'd be much more tolerant if it were 'wooooorldy'. But that would still make me regard the expression like Romney regards the electorate.


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Re: The Gr8 Keeper Deb8

by facaldaqui » 20 Sep 2012 11:08

Stuboo http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11673/8091900/

Not sure what BMc is going on about here. Not sure he's telling the full truth. Depends what he means by unrest. Very wooly statement.


He makes it clear that he likes to keep everything in house, so he's going to tell us as little of the full truth as he can. That's not lying, it's good management. If he told us all the details, the thing would grow instead of blowing over.

Players always get the hump when they're dropped, particularly goalkeepers. That doesn't count as unrest unless they disrupt the camp. Still no evidence that Feds has done anything wrong. Even the comments attributed to him on the internet are veiled mutterings rather than open revolt--a football manager would take that sort of thing in his stride, as he probably encounters sulking on a daily basis. For an example of how not to handle dropped goalkeepers, check out Paolo di Canio.

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Re: The Gr8 Keeper Deb8

by Stuboo » 20 Sep 2012 15:13

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Stuboo http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11673/8091900/

Not sure what BMc is going on about here. Not sure he's telling the full truth. Depends what he means by unrest. Very wooly statement.


He makes it clear that he likes to keep everything in house, so he's going to tell us as little of the full truth as he can. That's not lying, it's good management. If he told us all the details, the thing would grow instead of blowing over.

Players always get the hump when they're dropped, particularly goalkeepers. That doesn't count as unrest unless they disrupt the camp. Still no evidence that Feds has done anything wrong. Even the comments attributed to him on the internet are veiled mutterings rather than open revolt--a football manager would take that sort of thing in his stride, as he probably encounters sulking on a daily basis. For an example of how not to handle dropped goalkeepers, check out Paolo di Canio.


Yeah, that's kind of what I thought. He is probably using "no unrest" to mean that there is no unrest in the team, and perhaps hoping that we believe he means there is no unrest in Federici too. Time will tell if it's good management or not. I remember Copell took a different approach when Long threw a strop when he was substituted. He told the press, "It will be dealt with."

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Re: The Gr8 Keeper Deb8

by maffff » 20 Sep 2012 16:16

Stuboo I remember Copell took a different approach when Long threw a strop when he was substituted. He told the press, "It will be dealt with."
And look how Long turned out.


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Re: The Gr8 Keeper Deb8

by Stuboo » 20 Sep 2012 17:34

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Stuboo I remember Copell took a different approach when Long threw a strop when he was substituted. He told the press, "It will be dealt with."
And look how Long turned out.


The situation I was referring to was resolved at the time. Long left some time after, and his leaving had nothing to do with the strop incident and everything to do with £££££.

I'm not getting at McD, just pointing out there is more than one way to skin a cat.

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Re: The Gr8 Keeper Deb8

by RoyalBlue » 20 Sep 2012 17:46

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Stuboo http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11673/8091900/

Not sure what BMc is going on about here. Not sure he's telling the full truth. Depends what he means by unrest. Very wooly statement.


He makes it clear that he likes to keep everything in house, so he's going to tell us as little of the full truth as he can. That's not lying, it's good management. If he told us all the details, the thing would grow instead of blowing over.

Players always get the hump when they're dropped, particularly goalkeepers. That doesn't count as unrest unless they disrupt the camp. Still no evidence that Feds has done anything wrong. Even the comments attributed to him on the internet are veiled mutterings rather than open revolt--a football manager would take that sort of thing in his stride, as he probably encounters sulking on a daily basis. For an example of how not to handle dropped goalkeepers, check out Paolo di Canio.


Yeah, that's kind of what I thought. He is probably using "no unrest" to mean that there is no unrest in the team, and perhaps hoping that we believe he means there is no unrest in Federici too. Time will tell if it's good management or not. I remember Copell took a different approach when Long threw a strop when he was substituted. He told the press, "It will be dealt with."



And dealing with it might have meant putting an arm around Shane's shoulder and having a calm chat. It didn't necessarily mean throwing the book at him.

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Re: The Great Keeper Deb8

by RoyalBlue » 20 Sep 2012 17:57

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The fact it didn't go in was nothing to do with McCarthy. Similarly if Federici had someone stood behind him on the line against Stoke it wouldn't have gone in either.

It was an appalling error. Whether or not Sigurdsson completes the tap in is neither here nor there wrt the error.

McCarthy had a bad game.

It was an appalling error. But he closed down Defoe quickly so he didn't have a clear shot on goal and forced him to pass it, giving the defence time to get back and cover. So McCarthy did have something to do with it not going in. And it didn't.

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Only I don't think he did close Defoe down quickly. It was Defoe closing on McCarthy that brought them close together so quickly and was the reason Defoe was able to latch onto to ball when McCarthy took the poor touch. Defoe then opted for what he felt was a better option of laying the ball off - and it would have been the better option but for Pearce's heroics on the line.

McCarthy screwed up big time as you say and, but for Pearce's intervention, there would have been far less people singing his praises on here. I hope McCarthy comes good and quickly. However, still think Feds has proven himself far more, is currently the better keeper (despite his errors this season) and will prove that to be case by the end of this season.

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Re: The Gr8 Keeper Deb8

by Stuboo » 20 Sep 2012 18:01

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And dealing with it might have meant putting an arm around Shane's shoulder and having a calm chat. It didn't necessarily mean throwing the book at him.


That's not the impression Coppell gave at the time and if he did have a calm chat with him, I suspect it contained some warning that if he behaved like that again there would be consequences.

Anyway, it's nice to be reassured as fans that these prima dona players are being dealt with. I suspect Federici will be, but Brian's approach of keeping things "in house" leaves it open to speculation.


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Re: The Gr8 Keeper Deb8

by philM » 20 Sep 2012 19:55

Mirror Headline...
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OMGF! Reading keeper Federici's girlfriend tweet-lashed club for dropping her man...
Aussie cat - aka Mr Snuggly Bear?? - was sidelined on Sunday after catalogue of clangers... and the lil' lady wasn't taking THAT laying down...
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Mr Snuggly Bear? Where did that come from? :lol:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/reading-goalkeeper-adam-federicis-girlfriend-1331907

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Re: The Gr8 Keeper Deb8

by Davezk » 20 Sep 2012 20:00

I wish players would be more professional at times. Throwing a strop because he's been dropped, after a number of recent mistakes is petulant at best.

McCarthy doesn't instill me with confidence... but Federici should take the managers decision like a man and not a child. Similarly with his overly emotional girlfriend.

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Re: The Gr8 Keeper Deb8

by facaldaqui » 20 Sep 2012 20:08

Davezk I wish players would be more professional at times. Throwing a strop because he's been dropped, after a number of recent mistakes is petulant at best.

McCarthy doesn't instill me with confidence... but Federici should take the managers decision like a man and not a child. Similarly with his overly emotional girlfriend.


You are saying he threw a strop. Someone else above is saying what he did was comparable to a strop by Long. I still haven't seen any evidence of a strop from Federici. I expect he threw one at home with his girlfriend, that's all (probably two once he read what she and her sister tweeted).

If fans on here keep saying he threw a strop--which would have been unprofessional and would get him disciplined--sooner or later it will be accepted on HNA simply by force of repetition that he did throw a strop. Is such a rumour mill any good to any one?
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Re: The Gr8 Keeper Deb8

by Davezk » 20 Sep 2012 20:11

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Davezk I wish players would be more professional at times. Throwing a strop because he's been dropped, after a number of recent mistakes is petulant at best.

McCarthy doesn't instill me with confidence... but Federici should take the managers decision like a man and not a child. Similarly with his overly emotional girlfriend.


You are saying he threw a strop. Someone else above is saying what he did was comparable to a strop by Long. I still haven't seen any evidence of a strop from Federici. I expect he did one at home with his girlfriend, that's all--probably two once he read what she and her sister tweeted.

If fans on here keep saying he threw a strop--which would be unprofessional and would get him disciplined--sooner or later it will be accepted that he did throw a strop. Is such a rumour mill any good to any oone?


Well he claimed he is fit which contradicts the manager, and suggests to me that he disagrees with the decision publicly. Therefore it can be assumed he did throw a strop and his missus couldn't keep her mouth shut and vocalised it on the internet.

Also I'm sure I saw a picture of him saying 'just remember who is number one'. Not exactly taking it well if it is his account on instagram.

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Re: The Great Keeper Deb8

by philM » 20 Sep 2012 20:15

floyd__streete Insider info: Federici left the ground 5 minutes after kick off on Sunday in a strop :lol:


You're the only one claiming this. Care to share if you actually saw this, or name your source?

The only evidence I've seen of a strop is the "very very short memory" message that Feds posted, and that's not exactly a melt-down.

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Re: The Gr8 Keeper Deb8

by facaldaqui » 20 Sep 2012 20:17

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Davezk I wish players would be more professional at times. Throwing a strop because he's been dropped, after a number of recent mistakes is petulant at best.

McCarthy doesn't instill me with confidence... but Federici should take the managers decision like a man and not a child. Similarly with his overly emotional girlfriend.


You are saying he threw a strop. Someone else above is saying what he did was comparable to a strop by Long. I still haven't seen any evidence of a strop from Federici. I expect he did one at home with his girlfriend, that's all--probably two once he read what she and her sister tweeted.

If fans on here keep saying he threw a strop--which would be unprofessional and would get him disciplined--sooner or later it will be accepted that he did throw a strop. Is such a rumour mill any good to any oone?


Well he claimed he is fit which contradicts the manager, and suggests to me that he disagrees with the decision publically. Therefore it can be assumed he did throw a strop and his missus couldn't keep her mouth shut and vocalised it on the internet.

How is disagreeing with the manager throwing a strop? Brian accepts that Feds does not see it the same way as Anthony. I thought by throwing a strop people meant he stormed out of the ground or demolished the changing room. A couple of terse answers to questions on the internet isn't my definition of a strop. A strop involves at the very least raised voices, maybe some broken china or windows ... a punched nose. I know young people have low sperm counts these days, but if that counts as a strop I don't know what the world is coming to.

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Re: The Gr8 Keeper Deb8

by Davezk » 20 Sep 2012 20:51

facaldaqui How is disagreeing with the manager throwing a strop? Brian accepts that Feds does not see it the same way as Anthony. I thought by throwing a strop people meant he stormed out of the ground or something. A couple of terse answers to questions on the internet isn't my definition of a strop. A strop involves at the very least raised voices, maybe some broken china or windows ... a punched nose. I know young people have low sperm counts these days, but if that counts as a strop I don't know what the world is coming to.


Ok maybe the term 'strop' wasn't the necessarily the right one. I've always coincided such a word with someone who acts like a child when something happens that they don't like. Federici is obviously unhappy he has been dropped but neither him or his partner should berate the decision publicly. For one it is embarassing for all involved. Also, he deserved it after making poor mistakes in 3 games in a row... or is there a specified amount of exceptions we should making for him?

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