Back from the game - Newcastle

[melonhead]

Can't believe the early leavers though - ffs, yeah go and get to your car if it's a crap match and a foregone conclusion but come on - this was an absolute nail-biter to the end.

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really irritating- oxf*rd premiere league tourists.

[Tony Le Mesmer]

I can only remember one cross or set piece not clearing the first man (and that may have been Kebe) - so a massive improvement on Gunter and Harte.

Thats a slightly bizarre view on the Corners/set piece issue. Harte had dozens of set pieces cleared at the near post last season, because thats only a fraction off where he was aiming. Just clearing the front man is almost the perfect set piece. Harte's set piece ratio is about 60% crap 40 % deadly, hence why no other Reading player in my lifetime has a better set piece record than Harte, which went a long way to puting us where we are now.

Not saying he should be playing, because quite clearly he shouldnt be based on overall game at the moment. But the number of clueless individuals who simply can not see he is going for a very difficult delivery that actually gives a great chance of scoring amuses me no end.

[melonhead]

hes not put in a decent cross, corner or free kick all season
most havent cleared the first man which is criminal, and if its cos he is going for something clever- maybe he should stop, and concentrate on playing a better percentage
and when hes defending poorly, his positioning is all over the place, the defence are being pulled all over the shop to cope with his deficiencies,its pretty terrible, considering this is the only reason he wass in the team.

[cmonurz]

Not sure why you find it so amusing. We are in the Premier League now – there are far more effective dead-ball strikers than Harte around in terms of being able to consistently deliver a very telling corner or free-kick. I’d sooner 80% of our set pieces were reaching the danger area than 40%. These are Premier League defenders who will clear the best efforts of Hazard, Nani, Duff or whoever – Ian Harte whipping two out of five into the danger zone isn’t going to scare anyone.

[Tony Le Mesmer]

Not sure why you find it so amusing. We are in the Premier League now – there are far more effective dead-ball strikers than Harte around in terms of being able to consistently deliver a very telling corner or free-kick. I’d sooner 80% of our set pieces were reaching the danger area than 40%. These are Premier League defenders who will clear the best efforts of Hazard, Nani, Duff or whoever – Ian Harte whipping two out of five into the danger zone isn’t going to scare anyone.

I find it amusing because throughout the whole of last season i saw Harte getting abuse for not clearing the first man on countless occasions. We also scored more goals from his set pieces than ive seen from 1 player in 30 years+. Not that hard to grasp. And if you think we have or ever have had a player capable of creating a genuine goalscoring chance more than 40% of the time from set-pieces, you are just plain wrong im afraid. Still, having spent 2 years creating us so many goals, his 3 shit games this season perfectly justify the good riddance type remarks he now gets. Thanks for nothing Mr Harte.

[BraisingsteakRoyal]

Massive LOLs at Tony Le Mesmer who thinks I'm a 'clueless individual' for not appreciating Ian Harte attempting something vewwy, vewwy difficult (and this season at least) - failing at pretty much every attempt bar a couple of decent corners.

Not that I can be bothered to argue with you (as anyone with any sense can see that his historically decent delivery has taken a nose dive so far this season), I'm not talking about the first defender clearing it at the front post from a corner - it's more about crosses and free kicks in general where he (and others...) fail to clear the first man or the wall.

[cmonurz]

Well I’ve never been one for sentiment in football. I didn’t realise this was about ‘when he was good’ – that’s the mentality that saw us sign Les Ferdinand. Harte’s performances have been diminishing for a while, it’s not just three games this season.

Fwiw I remember when James Harper started taking our corners, whipping them in across the area, and don’t recall him hitting the first man too much (although that might have just been rose-tinted goggles at the sweet relief of no more of those awful floaty corners Caskey used to take).

[BraisingsteakRoyal]

Tony - you obviously see something in Ian Harte that Brian doesn't - perhaps you should email him?

No one is knocking his contribution in getting us where we are over the last 3 years, they are just pointing out that we're now in the Premier League and not only has he been caught out a few times defensively, he's also continually failed to deliver from set pieces or crosses in those 3 games. How many games would you give him? 10?

Shorey has looked much better since coming in and it's now his shirt to lose. There is no place for sentimentality at the bottom of the league.

Unless that's actually you Ian - In which case i hope you get back in the team soon - I think you're ace.

[Cypry]

Can't believe the early leavers though - ffs, yeah go and get to your car if it's a crap match and a foregone conclusion but come on - this was an absolute nail-biter to the end.

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really irritating- oxf*rd premiere league tourists.

FWIW where we are in the Upper West there were a lot fewer people than normal left, and those that did were the usual suspects who leave early every game....

[pea]

Every time he came into the side the season before our fortunes changed, last season he held down his place for the first time and was extremely consistent, he has a brilliant attitude and has always been patient and confident in his own ability, even when we didn't take him on our preseason tour and were expecting to let him go. Can't praise him enough personally, terrific professional and I hope he gets the chance to prove himself at this level because I'm sure he'll step up to the challenge.

[LoyalRoyalFan]

Not sure why you find it so amusing. We are in the Premier League now – there are far more effective dead-ball strikers than Harte around in terms of being able to consistently deliver a very telling corner or free-kick. I’d sooner 80% of our set pieces were reaching the danger area than 40%. These are Premier League defenders who will clear the best efforts of Hazard, Nani, Duff or whoever – Ian Harte whipping two out of five into the danger zone isn’t going to scare anyone.

I find it amusing because throughout the whole of last season i saw Harte getting abuse for not clearing the first man on countless occasions. We also scored more goals from his set pieces than ive seen from 1 player in 30 years+. Not that hard to grasp. And if you think we have or ever have had a player capable of creating a genuine goalscoring chance more than 40% of the time from set-pieces, you are just plain wrong im afraid. Still, having spent 2 years creating us so many goals, his 3 shit games this season perfectly justify the good riddance type remarks he now gets. Thanks for nothing Mr Harte.

Ian Harte has cost us so many points since he has joined, so don't keep coming up with the usual 'well he can take a good corner now and then' etc. He should have left in the summer, not good enough for Championship level football, let alone anything above that.

[Big Ern]

Can't believe the early leavers though - ffs, yeah go and get to your car if it's a crap match and a foregone conclusion but come on - this was an absolute nail-biter to the end.

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really irritating- oxf*rd premiere league tourists.

Here we go again with this "look at me, I'm a better fan than you" crap.

People pay their money and are entitled to go whenever they want. It is not a prison and sometimes people may have other engagements so need to get away early. If you want to stay until they end, fine, but it is not your place to criticise people if they want or have to leave early.

[BraisingsteakRoyal]

I agree that it's peoples' right to go when they like, but if they go with a ridiculous amount of time left (17 minutes was the best i saw at the Spurs game) and the team need support, it's my right to roll my eyes at them and think they are cnuts.

I'm not talking about disableds or people with kids who need a bit of extra time to get ahead of the crowds - i'm talking about the swathes of able-bodied, middle class scarfer mong-tards, runnign down the gangway as if their life depended on getting back to their BMW and back on the M4 so as not to be late for tea.

You know who you are.

[Royal Prince]

Can't believe the early leavers though - ffs, yeah go and get to your car if it's a crap match and a foregone conclusion but come on - this was an absolute nail-biter to the end.

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really irritating- oxf*rd premiere league tourists.

Here we go again with this "look at me, I'm a better fan than you" crap.

People pay their money and are entitled to go whenever they want. It is not a prison and sometimes people may have other engagements so need to get away early. If you want to stay until they end, fine, but it is not your place to criticise people if they want or have to leave early.

I get the whole 'I've paid my money and I'll leave early if I want' argument, however in my eyes it's plain disrespectful!

You wouldn't find people getting out of their seats five minutes before a play has finished while the actors are still on stage, so why is it ok at a football match?

Stay and show some support for the lads who have put so much effort in on the pitch, and show some gratitude by applauding them off. If getting home five minutes early is really more important to some people than showing respect to those that have put their hearts into the cause and above all entertained us then I think some people need a reality check!

[Maguire]

Nothing sadder in life than people who think football is so important they actually care when anyone else arrives or leaves.

Similarly, there's not much in life* that grinds my gears more than some fat-necked retard shouting "stay in your seat" or "fack of you plastic" at me if I decide to go five minutes before the end of the game.

*rape, genocide, ryanair

[Maguire]

show some gratitude by applauding them off

gROFLatitude

I help pay their fooking (massive) wages. If anything they should show their gratitude by lining up and clapping me as I walk back to the bus stop.

[BKRoyale]

show some gratitude by applauding them off

gROFLatitude

I help pay their fooking (massive) wages. If anything they should show their gratitude by lining up and clapping me as I walk back to the bus stop.

[facaldaqui]

You wouldn't find people getting out of their seats five minutes before a play has finished while the actors are still on stage, so why is it ok at a football match?

Stay and show some support for the lads who have put so much effort in on the pitch, and show some gratitude by applauding them off. If getting home five minutes early is really more important to some people than showing respect to those that have put their hearts into the cause and above all entertained us then I think some people need a reality check!

I don't see it as a moral issue. It's up to people what they do. The only reason I stay is because I don't want to miss anything. And the stats show that most goals are scored in the last few minutes, I believe.

[facaldaqui]

I find it amusing because throughout the whole of last season i saw Harte getting abuse for not clearing the first man on countless occasions. We also scored more goals from his set pieces than ive seen from 1 player in 30 years+. Not that hard to grasp. And if you think we have or ever have had a player capable of creating a genuine goalscoring chance more than 40% of the time from set-pieces, you are just plain wrong im afraid. Still, having spent 2 years creating us so many goals, his 3 shit games this season perfectly justify the good riddance type remarks he now gets. Thanks for nothing Mr Harte.

Harte is a very canny player. Despite lack of pace, his positional sense is pretty good (instead of chasing someone down the wing, he will move between him and the goal). I would still back him against some of the less experienced wingers in the prem. And his set pieces are invaluable. However, Shorey's goal against QPR shows that we may be able to go on scoring set pieces the Ian Harte way. Those saying Harte is finished for us are way out, I think. Especially when we are not over-covered at the back.

[melonhead]

Can't believe the early leavers though - ffs, yeah go and get to your car if it's a crap match and a foregone conclusion but come on - this was an absolute nail-biter to the end.

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really irritating- oxf*rd premiere league tourists.

Here we go again with this "look at me, I'm a better fan than you" crap.

People pay their money and are entitled to go whenever they want. It is not a prison and sometimes people may have other engagements so need to get away early. If you want to stay until they end, fine, but it is not your place to criticise people if they want or have to leave early.

oh here we go again, "look at me, im a better fan than you because youve highlighted weirdos leaving the ground early during a great and tense match ending"

lol at its not my place to criticise.
i find it irritating that nobs want to leave, just to sit in a car park. and i also find it irritating that you dont.
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