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Re: back from the game - Wigan

by Wimb » 24 Nov 2012 18:49

handbags_harris I wasn't there, but I don't care. Watched it all online so am more than well placed to comment. Copied and pasted from the match thread:-

Fcuking appalling defensively, we've not been great this season at the back but today, up against an unusual formation, we were ruthlessly exposed. Gunter persistently plays far too narrow which afforded Beausejour the time and space to get cross after cross in - the warning was there after two minutes - and Gorkks gets done by a bit of movement every single time. The amount of free headers we have conceded this season as a result of this, well it tells its own story. Federici can take his own fair share of the blame for their equaliser as he failed to hold onto a shot for the second or third time today, a shot that he should be taking fairly comfortably, and nearly repeated the trick a minute later, but originally it was Morrison who gave the ball away unforgiveably cheaply and then found himself out of position. Wigan should have gone ahead a minute before their second, only a poor offside call prevented them from doing so, Beausejour again the provider but then the criminal second - free cross from deep with Gunter and McAnuff nowhere to be seen (could have been HRK tbf, they did swap at one point), Gorkks done once again by a bit of movement, free header. Then the turd of a third, Beausejour getting in down the left again after we once again gave the ball away cheaply in midfield, they had numbers, and Gomes gets his hat-trick. The pathetic thing with that is that, all in all, Gomes had an awful game

Positives however - the attack once again looked good. We were always going to get a lot of joy up against Wigan's three man back line and the wingers didn't disappoint. ALF maybe should have scored first half, Al-Habsi pulled off a superb save from him at 1-1, and on top of all that we've been done again by poor refereeing decisions at critical times in the game. Two penalties denied, both stonewall in my view, both involving Tabb - first a handball from his volley, the guy's arm outstretched, and then second half Figueroa I think lunged, missed the ball, got Tabb. Roberts was immense all day again, he really has to start every game, Pogrebnyak's contribution in his cameo was to give the ball away twice. Unfortunately all this doesn't disguise the fact that we could have, and probably should have, conceded six.

Still, Wigan 3-2 Reading, Blackpool 2-2 Watford, Ipswich 1-1 Peterborough, Wolves 1-2 Forest, Stevenage 1-1 Tranmere, Bristol Rovers 3-3 Bradford and Oxford 2-1 Northampton in the Goals! Goals! Goals!, my only regret is not shoving my usual £5 on it, budgetary constraints meant a mere £2.50 stake turns into a £66.71 win. FOWLER!!


A top and fair assessment as always HH

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Re: Normal Saturday Night service resumed Wigan

by Royalee » 24 Nov 2012 18:50

Anton needs to be more ruthless.

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Re: Normal Saturday Night service resumed Wigan

by LoyalRoyalFan » 24 Nov 2012 18:52

Royalee Anton needs to be more ruthless.


Royalee has a point. The owners were ruthless with Rodgers, time to start thinking about future options.

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Re: back from the game - Wigan

by Royalee » 24 Nov 2012 18:53

Federici - 5
Shorey - 7
Morrison - 7
Gorkss - 4
Gunter - 4
Robson-Kanu - 6
Tabb - 7
Leigertwood - 4
McAnuff - 5
Roberts - 6
Le Fondre - 6

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Re: Normal Saturday Night service resumed Wigan

by Ian Royal » 24 Nov 2012 18:54

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Royalee Anton needs to be more ruthless.


Royalee has a point. The owners were ruthless with Rodgers, time to start thinking about future options.

We've lost a game! We've lost a game! Sack the manager!

Just as one win last week didn't mean we'd be safe, had turned the corner and McDermott was our saviour, one loss in 5 doesn't mean McDermott needs to be sacked now.


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Re: Normal Saturday Night service resumed Wigan

by Royalee » 24 Nov 2012 18:58

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Royalee Anton needs to be more ruthless.


Royalee has a point. The owners were ruthless with Rodgers, time to start thinking about future options.

We've lost a game! We've lost a game! Sack the manager!

Just as one win last week didn't mean we'd be safe, had turned the corner and McDermott was our saviour, one loss in 5 doesn't mean McDermott needs to be sacked now.


We deserved a point today and were a bit hard done by, but deserved to get stuffed out of sight last week after that first half. The result masked the performance and the football we play is more akin to Branfoot than the Premiership. McDermott has done well to get a lot out of a poor style of football, but the time has come where a shake-up has needed - about 3/4 of the squad is not good enough and once QPR, the improving Villa and Sunderland put some wins together I can see us being cut adrift. Time to act now and bring in a manager capable of making decent signings at the top level and a coach capable of playing passing football.

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Re: back from the game - Wigan

by winchester_royal » 24 Nov 2012 19:03

Feeling very flat after that. We gifted them 3 points, and the Wigan fans I've talked to afterwards have admitted as much. We need to learn how to keep the ball.

I'm a Gunter fan but even I thought he was shit today. Nothing in comparison to Gorkss though who gave the worst defensive display I've seen in a long time.

Fans were okay.

Over and out.

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Re: Normal Saturday Night service resumed Wigan

by Caskeys Lovechild » 24 Nov 2012 19:04

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We deserved a point today and were a bit hard done by, but deserved to get stuffed out of sight last week after that first half. The result masked the performance and the football we play is more akin to Branfoot than the Premiership. McDermott has done well to get a lot out of a poor style of football, but the time has come where a shake-up has needed - about 3/4 of the squad is not good enough and once QPR, the improving Villa and Sunderland put some wins together I can see us being cut adrift. Time to act now and bring in a manager capable of making decent signings at the top level and a coach capable of playing passing football.


Name one manager who is better than McDermott, would come here, who we could afford, and who wouldn't send this club into "overspend like a bunch of sailor shagging pikeys" mode?

There isn't one.

HTH

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Re: back from the game - Wigan

by Royalclapper » 24 Nov 2012 19:07

Poor result and display against a weakened Wigan side. The opposition are well clued up on our vulnerability. Most of the purposeful attacks came from exploiting a very limited looking Gunter- how much did we pay for him :roll: .

It was great to be in front but you just knew it wouldn't last. The extra quality in the final third from Wigan was a class apart from ours. Tabb- Prem standard?! great opportunity, clumsy first touch, into the box, and then even the dive was an embarrassingly desperate one, never a good enough player at this level, never will be. The first time cross for their equaliser was just way to quick and classy for a defence like ours, and that's what it takes to earn your stripes at this level. We did look dangerous ourselves in spells, but Roberts aside, there wasn't enough quality up top. Not looking good now.


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Re: back from the game - Wigan

by ManchesterRoyals » 24 Nov 2012 19:10

Royalclapper Poor result and display against a weakened Wigan side. The opposition are well clued up on our vulnerability. Most of the purposeful attacks came from exploiting a very limited looking Gunter- how much did we pay for him :roll: .


Agree 110% with this

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Re: Normal Saturday Night service resumed Wigan

by Royalee » 24 Nov 2012 19:13

Roberto Di Matteo.

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Re: Normal Saturday Night service resumed Wigan

by ManchesterRoyals » 24 Nov 2012 19:14

Back in the bottom 3 now :evil:

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Re: Normal Saturday Night service resumed Wigan

by sandman » 24 Nov 2012 19:16

Royalee Roberto Di Matteo.


Lost the dressing room at WBA and got lucky at Chelsea.

Patchy would be the best way to describe his managerial career.


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Re: back from the game - Wigan

by handbags_harris » 24 Nov 2012 19:17

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handbags_harris I wasn't there, but I don't care. Watched it all online so am more than well placed to comment. Copied and pasted from the match thread:-

Fcuking appalling defensively, we've not been great this season at the back but today, up against an unusual formation, we were ruthlessly exposed. Gunter persistently plays far too narrow which afforded Beausejour the time and space to get cross after cross in - the warning was there after two minutes - and Gorkks gets done by a bit of movement every single time. The amount of free headers we have conceded this season as a result of this, well it tells its own story. Federici can take his own fair share of the blame for their equaliser as he failed to hold onto a shot for the second or third time today, a shot that he should be taking fairly comfortably, and nearly repeated the trick a minute later, but originally it was Morrison who gave the ball away unforgiveably cheaply and then found himself out of position. Wigan should have gone ahead a minute before their second, only a poor offside call prevented them from doing so, Beausejour again the provider but then the criminal second - free cross from deep with Gunter and McAnuff nowhere to be seen (could have been HRK tbf, they did swap at one point), Gorkks done once again by a bit of movement, free header. Then the turd of a third, Beausejour getting in down the left again after we once again gave the ball away cheaply in midfield, they had numbers, and Gomes gets his hat-trick. The pathetic thing with that is that, all in all, Gomes had an awful game

Positives however - the attack once again looked good. We were always going to get a lot of joy up against Wigan's three man back line and the wingers didn't disappoint. ALF maybe should have scored first half, Al-Habsi pulled off a superb save from him at 1-1, and on top of all that we've been done again by poor refereeing decisions at critical times in the game. Two penalties denied, both stonewall in my view, both involving Tabb - first a handball from his volley, the guy's arm outstretched, and then second half Figueroa I think lunged, missed the ball, got Tabb. Roberts was immense all day again, he really has to start every game, Pogrebnyak's contribution in his cameo was to give the ball away twice. Unfortunately all this doesn't disguise the fact that we could have, and probably should have, conceded six.

Still, Wigan 3-2 Reading, Blackpool 2-2 Watford, Ipswich 1-1 Peterborough, Wolves 1-2 Forest, Stevenage 1-1 Tranmere, Bristol Rovers 3-3 Bradford and Oxford 2-1 Northampton in the Goals! Goals! Goals!, my only regret is not shoving my usual £5 on it, budgetary constraints meant a mere £2.50 stake turns into a £66.71 win. FOWLER!!


A top and fair assessment as always HH


Cheers old boy. I'm now off into Lytham to drown my sorrows at the best pub known to man.

I may one day even blog for TTE. Stranger things have happened at sea :P

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Re: back from the game - Wigan

by windermere_royal » 24 Nov 2012 19:20

At least we are losing the Reading way.

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Re: back from the game - Wigan

by ManchesterRoyals » 24 Nov 2012 19:26

windermere_royal At least we are losing the Reading way.


Yeah oxf*rd playing Pearce over a contract, Guthrie when fit over his spats with BM, just as long as we do the reading thing were be ok

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Re: back from the game - Wigan

by Wimb » 24 Nov 2012 19:27

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handbags_harris I wasn't there, but I don't care. Watched it all online so am more than well placed to comment. Copied and pasted from the match thread:-

Fcuking appalling defensively, we've not been great this season at the back but today, up against an unusual formation, we were ruthlessly exposed. Gunter persistently plays far too narrow which afforded Beausejour the time and space to get cross after cross in - the warning was there after two minutes - and Gorkks gets done by a bit of movement every single time. The amount of free headers we have conceded this season as a result of this, well it tells its own story. Federici can take his own fair share of the blame for their equaliser as he failed to hold onto a shot for the second or third time today, a shot that he should be taking fairly comfortably, and nearly repeated the trick a minute later, but originally it was Morrison who gave the ball away unforgiveably cheaply and then found himself out of position. Wigan should have gone ahead a minute before their second, only a poor offside call prevented them from doing so, Beausejour again the provider but then the criminal second - free cross from deep with Gunter and McAnuff nowhere to be seen (could have been HRK tbf, they did swap at one point), Gorkks done once again by a bit of movement, free header. Then the turd of a third, Beausejour getting in down the left again after we once again gave the ball away cheaply in midfield, they had numbers, and Gomes gets his hat-trick. The pathetic thing with that is that, all in all, Gomes had an awful game

Positives however - the attack once again looked good. We were always going to get a lot of joy up against Wigan's three man back line and the wingers didn't disappoint. ALF maybe should have scored first half, Al-Habsi pulled off a superb save from him at 1-1, and on top of all that we've been done again by poor refereeing decisions at critical times in the game. Two penalties denied, both stonewall in my view, both involving Tabb - first a handball from his volley, the guy's arm outstretched, and then second half Figueroa I think lunged, missed the ball, got Tabb. Roberts was immense all day again, he really has to start every game, Pogrebnyak's contribution in his cameo was to give the ball away twice. Unfortunately all this doesn't disguise the fact that we could have, and probably should have, conceded six.

Still, Wigan 3-2 Reading, Blackpool 2-2 Watford, Ipswich 1-1 Peterborough, Wolves 1-2 Forest, Stevenage 1-1 Tranmere, Bristol Rovers 3-3 Bradford and Oxford 2-1 Northampton in the Goals! Goals! Goals!, my only regret is not shoving my usual £5 on it, budgetary constraints meant a mere £2.50 stake turns into a £66.71 win. FOWLER!!


A top and fair assessment as always HH


Cheers old boy. I'm now off into Lytham to drown my sorrows at the best pub known to man.

I may one day even blog for TTE. Stranger things have happened at sea :P


Ha, please do.

We've contacted your agent several times, and he's saying you won't sign until we give you the Premier Manager treatment of throwing in a house & car' :evil:

Enjoy the beer(s)

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Re: back from the game - Wigan

by sandman » 24 Nov 2012 19:30

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windermere_royal At least we are losing the Reading way.


Yeah oxf*rd playing Pearce over a contract, Guthrie when fit over his spats with BM, just as long as we do the reading thing were be ok



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Re: back from the game - Wigan

by moonwalklikebas » 24 Nov 2012 19:32

Gunter looks vulnerable because the undroppable Mcanuff is absolute dog shite at anything that involves effort....generally everything but taking the glory. Stop having a go at Gunter, when Mcleary or Hal is in front of him he looks good.

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Re: back from the game - Wigan

by DaveBanana » 24 Nov 2012 19:39

In the car back now, gutted! I thought there was a spell in the first half where we kept getting fouled en route to the box and that this was going to be a shift in the game, but fizzled out again after the goal. Looked like a defo penalty for the foul on Tabby, who I thought looked great again. Their support was shocking, and they sold out of hot dogs, a definite low point :cry: normally after the heat of BATTLE you can find a few perks in e surroundings, but Wigan legitimately was a shithole, potentially worth leaving Gorkks there to fend for himself in the hope he returns a mighty warrior capable of defending. I'm personally in the McCarthy camp, and today I thought Feds was shaky again, but wouldn't single him out as having a shocker - I actually thought Pog played alright, just nit what we needed/when we needed it, a change in formation in the middle would have been better, but I think too much hope is being placed in Guthrie being a key. Morrison was ace for the most part, and saw him shouting the others up more than anyone else.. Shame to see so many leave on the third goal, I still felt there was time for another goal which could have gone either way.

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