Back from the game - Fulham

[LWJ]

Why do some Reqding fans think we are now in a relegation fight?

7 points off the bottom 3 7 points off 9th. With yesterday's performance we will be comfortable for the rest of the season

[Will95]

Dull game I thought but McCleary looked great. Brilliant time in the Eight Bells before and after the game and then some other pub after the game too. Those stewards sure did love carting our fans out though, had to laugh as someone I was with didn't make half time

[P!ssed Off]

Smash and grab by Fulham.

Farting at football is disgusting. Someone near me was absolutely rotten.

We had some awful smells around us, in the end I came to the conclusion that it must have been coming from the toilets underneath the stand

+1, it stank all game.

[leon]

In the family stand with friends. 80 quid on the day for me and the jnr leons to watch a game through a letterbox surrounded by chinless middle class pricks. My 8 year old knows more about football than that shower. She was pissed off she wasn't in the away end.

We should have won that 3 -1 just didn't have any goal scoring nous up front and enough steel in the middle. Second half we dominated but let Parker run with the ball for their first.

Our right side was magnificent just let down by the non existent finishing.

Took me as long to drive 3 miles home as it does from a home game.
A really annoying afternoon all round.

[RoyalBlue]

Why do some Reqding fans think we are now in a relegation fight?

7 points off the bottom 3 7 points off 9th. With yesterday's performance we will be comfortable for the rest of the season

Why? Because yesterday's performance yielded a big fat zero points. And performances like that, no matter how good, will continue to yield very few points unless the club act to ensure that we have better striking options than those currently available to Clarke.

Unfortunately it would appear that the club's standard contract for managers stipulates that they must produce the RFC transfer mantra whenever the window is open: 'If the right player becomes available at the right price (at RFC's, rather than the market's assessment), and will add something to the squad we already have, then we will do business.'

So that is why some Reading fans feel that we may face a relegation fight.

And BTW, Charles Watts (a relative neutral) felt that had we had a striker like Murray yesterday, we would have won easily.

[sandman]

Why do some Reqding fans think we are now in a relegation fight?

7 points off the bottom 3 7 points off 9th. With yesterday's performance we will be comfortable for the rest of the season

Why? Because yesterday's performance yielded a big fat zero points. And performances like that, no matter how good, will continue to yield very few points unless the club act to ensure that we have better striking options than those currently available to Clarke.

Unfortunately it would appear that the club's standard contract for managers stipulates that they must produce the RFC transfer mantra whenever the window is open: 'If the right player becomes available at the right price (at RFC's, rather than the market's assessment), and will add something to the squad we already have, then we will do business.'

So that is why some Reading fans feel that we may face a relegation fight.

And BTW, Charles Watts (a relative neutral) felt that had we had a striker like Murray yesterday, we would have won easily.

Out of interest, in your own life do you regularly spend money you don't have?

[paddy20]

Hard to be too critical of that performance, the only real issue is that we were just not clinical enough. I was sat in corporate so probably didn't see the Blackman chance aswell as fans in the away end but looked like McCleary had played him through wonderfully and he just seemed to fall over. In recent years when we would have had Alfie coming off the bench rather than Blackman, we would've won that game. That miss aside McCleary played numerous decent crosses into the box and the likes of Pog & HRK all had decent chances to score.

Don't accept Paddy's criticism of HRK, thought he was decent today, however having McCleary back does make a massive difference.

Admittedly he wasn't quite as bad as normal but still very weak. A bit alarmed that Clarke thought he was as good as Macleary. It seems all new managers start off really rating him and then take about 6 months before they realise. Still not quite sure how Kanu manages to do that.

[RoyalBlue]

Why do some Reqding fans think we are now in a relegation fight?

7 points off the bottom 3 7 points off 9th. With yesterday's performance we will be comfortable for the rest of the season

Why? Because yesterday's performance yielded a big fat zero points. And performances like that, no matter how good, will continue to yield very few points unless the club act to ensure that we have better striking options than those currently available to Clarke.

Unfortunately it would appear that the club's standard contract for managers stipulates that they must produce the RFC transfer mantra whenever the window is open: 'If the right player becomes available at the right price (at RFC's, rather than the market's assessment), and will add something to the squad we already have, then we will do business.'

So that is why some Reading fans feel that we may face a relegation fight.

And BTW, Charles Watts (a relative neutral) felt that had we had a striker like Murray yesterday, we would have won easily.

Out of interest, in your own life do you regularly spend money you don't have?

No, I've invested sensibly to accumulate quite well thank you very much. And that meant taking an element of calculated risk. And as you work your way up you have to invest a bit more! Sadly the much vaunted 'Reading aka Madjeski Way' doesn't seem to realise that you need to invest to create and sustain a very successful business and seems to favour trying to cut to success! They also seem to believe in a different universe where the market operates in the manner that the directors at Reading FC believe it should and market prices are what they decide they are, rather than what the open market dictates.

Out of interest, have you bought an awful lot of double glazing in your life?

You must be a pretty easy target, given the way you seem to be happy to swallow everything the club tell you.

Of course, none of the above alters the fact that we may well find ourselves in a relegation fight if we don't do anything to strenthen our strike force and start scoring more goals.

[kwik-silva]

Why do some Reqding fans think we are now in a relegation fight?

7 points off the bottom 3 7 points off 9th. With yesterday's performance we will be comfortable for the rest of the season

Nine points in the last ten games points to us going one direction rather than the other.

[Armadillo Roadkill]

In the family stand with friends. 80 quid on the day for me and the jnr leons to watch a game through a letterbox surrounded by chinless middle class pricks.

As a Guardian reading, claret swilling Green-voting middle-aged middle-class football fan, I find your comments to be at best unwholesome, at worst downright rude Sir.

[Ian Royal]

Why do some Reqding fans think we are now in a relegation fight?

7 points off the bottom 3 7 points off 9th. With yesterday's performance we will be comfortable for the rest of the season

Why? Because yesterday's performance yielded a big fat zero points. And performances like that, no matter how good, will continue to yield very few points unless the club act to ensure that we have better striking options than those currently available to Clarke.

Unfortunately it would appear that the club's standard contract for managers stipulates that they must produce the RFC transfer mantra whenever the window is open: 'If the right player becomes available at the right price (at RFC's, rather than the market's assessment), and will add something to the squad we already have, then we will do business.'

So that is why some Reading fans feel that we may face a relegation fight.

And BTW, Charles Watts (a relative neutral) felt that had we had a striker like Murray yesterday, we would have won easily.

Out of interest, in your own life do you regularly spend money you don't have?

RB's finance rants are best just ignored sandy.

[kwik-silva]

At least they're not that twitter fella who insists Reading should spend money and FFP is a myth

[sandman]

Best to ignore, maybe. Fun to wind him up? Definitely.

[LWJ]

Why do some Reqding fans think we are now in a relegation fight?

7 points off the bottom 3 7 points off 9th. With yesterday's performance we will be comfortable for the rest of the season

Nine points in the last ten games points to us going one direction rather than the other.

how is that? When our manager hasn't had us for 10 games.

[bobby1413]

Why do some Reqding fans think we are now in a relegation fight?

7 points off the bottom 3 7 points off 9th. With yesterday's performance we will be comfortable for the rest of the season

Nine points in the last ten games points to us going one direction rather than the other.

how is that? When our manager hasn't had us for 10 games.

There was no mention of the manager's involvement

However, I do agree that there's not reason to be overly negative. We have seen improvement since SC came in, and that's a great sign. We do need a striker, however at least we're creating chances, and pushing forward, threatening the other team. Not just standing (or sitting) for 90 minutes freezing cold, wondering why you bothered to leave the house.

[SCIAG]

They also seem to believe in a different universe where the market operates in the manner that the directors at Reading FC believe it should and market prices are what they decide they are, rather than what the open market dictates.

Players are only worth what clubs - in this case, us - are prepared to pay for them. There is no mystical market independent of that.

So far, signing players whose perceived value is less than their "actual value" has worked very well for us. It got us promoted to the Premier League twice, and has made us sustainably competitive at a high level. There is no reason to change this policy.

[leon]

In the family stand with friends. 80 quid on the day for me and the jnr leons to watch a game through a letterbox surrounded by chinless middle class pricks.

As a Guardian reading, claret swilling Green-voting middle-aged middle-class football fan, I find your comments to be at best unwholesome, at worst downright rude Sir.

Were you the guy in the red jacket that kept shouting off off every time there was a free to kick to Fulham?

[RoyalBlue]

They also seem to believe in a different universe where the market operates in the manner that the directors at Reading FC believe it should and market prices are what they decide they are, rather than what the open market dictates.

Players are only worth what clubs - in this case, us - are prepared to pay for them. There is no mystical market independent of that.

So far, signing players whose perceived value is less than their "actual value" has worked very well for us. It got us promoted to the Premier League twice, and has made us sustainably competitive at a high level. There is no reason to change this policy.

Sorry, you start off well by saying 'what clubs' and then get it completely wrong by saying 'in this case us'. The market value is not, never has been and never will be what Reading FC say it is, unless they are the only club interested in a player. I was referring to situations where we have tried to get good players on the cheap and then lost out to other clubs who created and paid the market rate.

The argument that signing players whose perceived value is less than their actual value has worked very well for us is now starting to look somewhat shaky. It conveniently overlooks the now very many occasions where buying cheap has not worked out. Whilst some may argue it got us to the promised land twice, it could also be argued that it twice got us relegated from there.

A proven 'rule' for virtually every market, including football, is that that in the majority of cases, the more you pay for something, the more likely you are to get better quality and reliability.

[Armadillo Roadkill]

In the family stand with friends. 80 quid on the day for me and the jnr leons to watch a game through a letterbox surrounded by chinless middle class pricks.

As a Guardian reading, claret swilling Green-voting middle-aged middle-class football fan, I find your comments to be at best unwholesome, at worst downright rude Sir.

Were you the guy in the red jacket that kept shouting off off every time there was a free to kick to Fulham?

No. Yesterday I was nurturing my off shore investments, sipping sherry and reflecting upon how, by being middle class, I would never understand the intricacies of football.

[leon]

Really? I was at the game.