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by WestRoyal » 23 Apr 2015 15:58

Jano There is a big big difference between not having anyone to aim for and producing bad crosses. Bad crosses have been a particular blight on this season my view, a totally unacceptable one considering the quality these guys are supposed to have. All season long I have seen the following, with or without Murray, Cooper or anyone capable of heading a football in the team -

1 - Set pieces regularly fail to beat the first man. Totally inexcusable.
2 - Crosses hitting the defender.
3 - Crosses going into the only area where there is not a Reading player.
4 - Crosses being woefully overhit.
5 - Crosses going straight out of play when under little pressure.

I also don't understand why the wingers always cut inside. It must be so predictable playing against them, I can't remember McCleary actually getting to the by line and crossing with his preferred foot all season! There was a free kick last night, I think from Obita in the second half, just outside the Birmingham penalty area on the left side, and the technique used to kick the ball was bizarre, it was like he purposely scuffed it.


I don't know what sandman meant exactly by that statement but when I say that is a part of the problem it doesn't actually mean there is no one in the box. I'm saying it’s not always the ball itself that is to blame. Of course you are going to get the same with or without Murray or a player of his ilk but he would of have been on the end and converted a lot more than we have done and people wouldn't be so focused on the final ball so much. Yes there has been some absolute dire crosses but on the other hand there have been crosses where you think the striker should be attacking that or someone should be there getting on the end of that.

As for not remembering mccleary getting to the by-line and crossing with his right then maybe you don't go to every game
I certainly remember: Fulham away a number of times, one that springs to mind when the ball went straight across the six yard box begging for someone to tap in, Bradford Home, Watford home when we should have went one up through Blackman missing a sitter, Forest Home when cox volleyed over.
Now I'm not saying because of this mccleary should be free of any criticism b, certainly not as a player of his ability should be doing better but unless you go to the odd game what you are saying above just isn't true so I'm not sure why you say that unless you were for the sake of it.

With more competition for the position next season players will need to raise there game and I think they will. Too many players this season knew they were going to play the following week regardless of their performance

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by Jano » 23 Apr 2015 16:54

In answer to your question I think I've missed 3 home games due to holiday's this season... I maintain however this shouldn't be a once every few games occurrence, they are wingers, they should be doing it several times, every single game.

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by RG7Fan » 23 Apr 2015 18:24

Whore Jackie Actually thought Chalobah had a really poor game – bar one terrific pass. He'd reverted to the player we saw when he first came on loan.


He had three shots on target didn't he?

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by RG7Fan » 23 Apr 2015 18:29

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Jano Just seen Ake's gone back to Chelsea after his loan finished. What exactly was the point of that!


Recalled according to BBC Berks, which I presume is different to his loan finishing.



Loan (1 month) was announced on 25 Mar, so would have ended 24 Apr I guess - therefore he wouldn't have played on Saturday anyway. Clarke needn't have played him last night - he could have put Kuhl in instead (maybe that's a sign ...).

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by tmesis » 23 Apr 2015 18:56

I agree completely with the comments about crossing. I've been watching Reading for nearly 30 years, and I struggle to think of any wide players we've had in the past with less ability to put a ball into the box.

It's like we just whack it in, without looking up, without trying to pick out a player, with no thought about how high it should be hit, or how hard it should be hit.

The result is that 95% of our cross are either over-hit, go to nobody, or hit the first man. Add to that the fact that they seem inclined to cut back rather than put a cross in half the time.


Our off-the-ball movement is also dreadful, meaning attacks break down because nobody has run into a position to receive the ball.


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by RG7Fan » 23 Apr 2015 19:00

RoyalBlue No, it also showed that the manager didn't really care about winning the game for the long suffering supporters. He's doing a great job promoting season ticket sales for next season!!


And what if he played the best team to win and didn't try out players to decide whether he needed them / showcase them to other teams? People would moan about that.

For me, since we are now safe I don't expect much - and if it means the last few matches are used to help shape a better team for next year then I'm ok with that. Clarke and Adkins have basically had mainly the same squad and the results under both (barring the Cup) have been pretty much the same. Doesn't take a genius to work out that that its not just down to the Manager in my view.

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by SCIAG » 23 Apr 2015 19:24

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RoyalBlue No, it also showed that the manager didn't really care about winning the game for the long suffering supporters. He's doing a great job promoting season ticket sales for next season!!


And what if he played the best team to win and didn't try out players to decide whether he needed them / showcase them to other teams? People would moan about that.

I'd argue it was pretty much our best team, considering the three injured players and Clarke's dislike of Cox and Norwood. Only Pearce missed out.

You could make a case for Yakubu ahead of Appiah or Novakovich but does anyone think that would have made a difference?

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by Ian Royal » 23 Apr 2015 19:31

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RoyalBlue No, it also showed that the manager didn't really care about winning the game for the long suffering supporters. He's doing a great job promoting season ticket sales for next season!!


And what if he played the best team to win and didn't try out players to decide whether he needed them / showcase them to other teams? People would moan about that.

I'd argue it was pretty much our best team, considering the three injured players and Clarke's dislike of Cox and Norwood. Only Pearce missed out.

You could make a case for Yakubu ahead of Appiah or Novakovich but does anyone think that would have made a difference?

It hasn't when we have played our 'best' team.

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by Moonfish » 23 Apr 2015 20:13

MmmMonsterMunch Some of these posts crack me up. People were crying out to see some new blood tonight given we're safe. He does it & then gets a load of grief. Stacey didn't mark well for the corner & they scored. These things happen.


How are you blaming Stacey for not marking well enough for the corner when he wasn't even in the box? He was busy closing down the ball after they'd taken the short corner, albeit he couldn't get to their man in time to prevent him putting in a good cross from the edge of the box into a dangerous area.


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by West Stand Man » 23 Apr 2015 20:30

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MmmMonsterMunch Some of these posts crack me up. People were crying out to see some new blood tonight given we're safe. He does it & then gets a load of grief. Stacey didn't mark well for the corner & they scored. These things happen.


How are you blaming Stacey for not marking well enough for the corner when he wasn't even in the box? He was busy closing down the ball after they'd taken the short corner, albeit he couldn't get to their man in time to prevent him putting in a good cross from the edge of the box into a dangerous area.


I am surprised no one has blamed HRK for not being in the pitch at the time.

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by RG7Fan » 23 Apr 2015 21:51

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RoyalBlue No, it also showed that the manager didn't really care about winning the game for the long suffering supporters. He's doing a great job promoting season ticket sales for next season!!


And what if he played the best team to win and didn't try out players to decide whether he needed them / showcase them to other teams? People would moan about that.

I'd argue it was pretty much our best team, considering the three injured players and Clarke's dislike of Cox and Norwood. Only Pearce missed out.

You could make a case for Yakubu ahead of Appiah or Novakovich but does anyone think that would have made a difference?


Well we dont need to field our best team now.

SC didnt need to play Ake or Chalobah last night. Why did he? Maybe its the Chelsea connection for next year (and maybe other clubs as well) - hasnt he just shown other big clubs that he is prepared to play loanees even when not needed. Gives them experience, etc.? Who knows.

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by melonhead » 24 Apr 2015 16:28

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SC didnt need to play Ake or Chalobah last night. Why did he? Maybe its the Chelsea connection for next year (and maybe other clubs as well) - hasnt he just shown other big clubs that he is prepared to play loanees even when not needed. Gives them experience, etc.? Who knows.


theyre on - only pay, if they don't play- deals
, we have to pay their wages if they don't play, and we are skint to do so till the season ends

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by ladida_gunner_graham » 24 Apr 2015 16:33

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theyre on - only pay, if they don't play- deals
, we have to pay their wages if they don't play, and we are skint to do so till the season ends


Dave......Dave-Royal....is that you?


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by Geekins » 24 Apr 2015 16:37

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theyre on - only pay, if they don't play- deals
, we have to pay their wages if they don't play, and we are skint to do so till the season ends


Dave......Dave-Royal....is that you?


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by Pepe the Horseman » 24 Apr 2015 17:05

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by genome » 24 Apr 2015 18:47

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theyre on - only pay, if they don't play- deals
, we have to pay their wages if they don't play, and we are skint to do so till the season ends


Dave......Dave-Royal....is that you?


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by RG7Fan » 24 Apr 2015 19:55

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SC didnt need to play Ake or Chalobah last night. Why did he? Maybe its the Chelsea connection for next year (and maybe other clubs as well) - hasnt he just shown other big clubs that he is prepared to play loanees even when not needed. Gives them experience, etc.? Who knows.


theyre on - only pay, if they don't play- deals
, we have to pay their wages if they don't play, and we are skint to do so till the season ends



Fair enough - I wasn't aware of that kind of thing. Makes sense though.

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