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Re: FIFA

by PieEater » 03 Jun 2015 23:14

Lol at Blazer singing like a canary, presumable he'll get a plea deal whilst spilling the beans on Blatter et al. What's the chances of any one going to jail or them recovering any money?

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Re: FIFA

by Uke » 03 Jun 2015 23:19

PieEater Lol at Blazer singing like a canary, presumable he'll get a plea deal whilst spilling the beans on Blatter et al. What's the chances of any one going to jail or them recovering any money?


A lot longer than the chances of Chuck having a heart attack before any football trials start


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Re: FIFA

by PieEater » 03 Jun 2015 23:34

I thought he had colon cancer, sounds pretty terminal

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Re: FIFA

by Royal Rother » 04 Jun 2015 06:35

Victor Meldrew
This and the later post from our radio-listening RFC correspondent up there in the water company or wherever he still works proves to me yet again what an obnoxious creature you are.
I used to think that people on here were rather hard on you and dismissive of what you post but these last two have shown how impolite and unnecessarily aggressive (eat your heart out Spacey) you are.
I appreciate you are probably a Billy-no-mates loner and that is why you act as you do on a football website but you are not the sort of person that I wish to discuss things with so rather than deprive you of what clearly gives you kicks and report you for abuse I will bow out and leave you to your own tawdry devices.

Hob-Nob used to be fun but, with people like you and others that put forward nothing to discussions such as the fox with his (in his own head) cryptic one or two liners and some who don't read posts but jump in with views on what they thought was posted rather than taking in what was actually posted, it has become dull and ridiculously over-aggressive in tone.

I came on to Hob -Nob about 15 years ago because I occasionally got information from the club which I thought might be of interest to fellow fans and worth sharing but nobody now seems to know anything or hear anything of interest and the level of debate has dropped to an all-time low.
People used to debate vigorously and at times abusively but seemingly without malice however now not only has it become dull but it is too often malicious and as one who is far from easily offended I find it now uninformative and don't really wish to share my views to a group (with a few exceptions) have nothing to say.


Frankly, that's a load of old bollocks. It's a far less abusive and malicious place than it was 10-15 years ago. You've just developed a bigger ego and a thinner skin with age.

Thing is Vic, no offence, but you used to get called out on the rubbish you posted back then, and the same thing is happening today. And there's been lots of it on this thread.

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Re: FIFA

by ZacNaloen » 04 Jun 2015 10:11

Yep, Blazer is dying. That's why he's properly spilling the beans. Nothing to lose.


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Re: FIFA

by Uke » 04 Jun 2015 10:29

It's not over until the fat bloke sings

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by Super Kevin Bremner! » 04 Jun 2015 10:32

For my sins I listen to Talksport on the way to and from work, and the amount of callers that come on and say they don't get to so many games nowadays because they can't afford it is phenomenal.

The FA and the Premier League are so rich and powerful in this country, yet between them they have allowed football to be taken away from so many people. It's ironic that the FA are so disturbed about the misdistribution of wealth amongst the FIFA corrupt, yet the misdistribution of Wealth under their own noses seems to trundle on and on.

The die-hard football fan (of any class) probably doesn't give as much of a toss about bribes for World Cups as some people in our country's governing bodies think they do. The only slight benefit to what has happened with wealth in the modern English game is that there are smaller, more affordable amateur teams to watch, charging £10 a game, or £100 a season ticket. They'll experience a small upturn but nothing considerable.

Kes - when I said about an Adidas kit, that was because Adidas are Man Utd's kit supplier. You can buy cheaper but it was a good comparison of the two prices. -£500 for a grass roots club and +£100m for a Premier League club.

Money does filter through from partners of the FA and the Premier League and there's often little things floating around that you can apply for. The grass roots effect is just one example though of why there are far bigger things under our own noses that need fixing before we squeal like pigs about FIFA.

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Re: FIFA

by ZacNaloen » 04 Jun 2015 10:43

Cost of tickets to watch matches is a massive issue for the lower paid portions of our society wanting to watch football at the top level, but it's a symptom of the capitalistic nature of our economy rather than any corruption.

Low Supply, high demand = high costs.

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Re: FIFA

by Sutekh » 04 Jun 2015 10:58

Latest from the BBC website

Former Fifa vice-president Jack Warner made a televised address in which he said he feared for his life in the wake of the corruption investigation.

Speaking in Trinidad, he said he could link Fifa officials to the 2010 election in Trinidad and Tobago.

"I will no longer keep secrets for them who actively seek to destroy the country," he said.

The US has launched a wide-ranging criminal case that engulfed Fifa and led President Sepp Blatter to resign.

Mr Warner has been indicted by the US with corruption, a charge he strongly denies.


Now FIFA officials could be involved in a country's election process :shock: looks like this saga is going to run and run. It's going to make for some film in a few years time.


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Re: FIFA

by Brosef Stalin » 04 Jun 2015 11:30

BR2 RR may choose to be picky just like his old mate Spacecruiser but I'll let it go because you express the idea well even if the punctuation and general grammar is around B- but symbolic of those not long out of the education system.

Please keep me in the loop and tell me Zac when FIFA, our own FA, the IOC., EUFA,Barclays Bank LIBOR traders et al are totally transparent , honest and accountable-I won't hold my breath that it happens in my lifetime but it just could in yours.

It would be a start if Reading FC were squeeky clean.


BR2 RR may choose to be picky just like his old mate Spacecruiser but I'll let it go because you express the idea well even if the punctuation and general grammar is around B- but symbolic of those not long out of the education system.
Please keep me in the loop and tell me Zac when FIFA, our own FA, the IOC., EUFA,Barclays Bank LIBOR traders et al are totally transparent , honest and accountable-I won't hold my breath that it happens in my lifetime but it just could in yours.
It would be a start if Reading FC were squeeky clean.


not going tat for tat but the way you lay stuff out makes it difficult to read.

It's a lot easier if you stick a space in between the lines. cheers

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Re: FIFA

by Royal Rother » 04 Jun 2015 11:45

Super Kevin Bremner! For my sins I listen to Talksport on the way to and from work....


WTF? Brazil AND Durham?

No wonder you needed a rant.

It'll be therapy next.

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Re: FIFA

by PieEater » 04 Jun 2015 12:25

Sutekh Latest from the BBC website

Former Fifa vice-president Jack Warner made a televised address in which he said he feared for his life in the wake of the corruption investigation.

Speaking in Trinidad, he said he could link Fifa officials to the 2010 election in Trinidad and Tobago.

"I will no longer keep secrets for them who actively seek to destroy the country," he said.

The US has launched a wide-ranging criminal case that engulfed Fifa and led President Sepp Blatter to resign.

Mr Warner has been indicted by the US with corruption, a charge he strongly denies.


Now FIFA officials could be involved in a country's election process :shock: looks like this saga is going to run and run. It's going to make for some film in a few years time.


If Jack Warner start singing the whole house of cards comes falling down, although given he's one of the worst would the US want to let him off just to get Blatter?

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Re: FIFA

by Uke » 04 Jun 2015 12:26

Sutekh It's going to make for some film in a few years time.



You not seen "United Passions" with Tim Roth as Blatter, Gérard Depardieu as Jules Rimet and Sam Neill as João Havelange?





No?

Me neither...


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Re: FIFA

by Zammo » 04 Jun 2015 12:41

Blatter been charged with anything yet ? Nope. Thought not.

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by From Despair To Where? » 04 Jun 2015 12:45

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Sutekh Latest from the BBC website

Former Fifa vice-president Jack Warner made a televised address in which he said he feared for his life in the wake of the corruption investigation.

Speaking in Trinidad, he said he could link Fifa officials to the 2010 election in Trinidad and Tobago.

"I will no longer keep secrets for them who actively seek to destroy the country," he said.

The US has launched a wide-ranging criminal case that engulfed Fifa and led President Sepp Blatter to resign.

Mr Warner has been indicted by the US with corruption, a charge he strongly denies.


Now FIFA officials could be involved in a country's election process :shock: looks like this saga is going to run and run. It's going to make for some film in a few years time.


If Jack Warner start singing the whole house of cards comes falling down, although given he's one of the worst would the US want to let him off just to get Blatter?



There's been accusations of corruption hanging over his head for about 25 years. Weren't also there allegations that he flogged a sizeable proportion of the T&T 2006 World Cup ticket allocation to the highest bidder and trouser the money himself?

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by Kitsondinho » 04 Jun 2015 12:47

Sutekh Latest from the BBC website

Former Fifa vice-president Jack Warner made a televised address in which he said he feared for his life in the wake of the corruption investigation.

Speaking in Trinidad, he said he could link Fifa officials to the 2010 election in Trinidad and Tobago.

"I will no longer keep secrets for them who actively seek to destroy the country," he said.

The US has launched a wide-ranging criminal case that engulfed Fifa and led President Sepp Blatter to resign.

Mr Warner has been indicted by the US with corruption, a charge he strongly denies.


Now FIFA officials could be involved in a country's election process :shock: looks like this saga is going to run and run. It's going to make for some film in a few years time.

If what Warner claims is true (and lets be honest, he doesn't have a great track record of accurate information) then there is even more reason to be delighted that the house of cards is falling. I wouldn't be surprised if other nations have similar stories to tell of FIFA. As I said earlier on the thread, Brazil's government were forced to pass laws concerning the sale of beer in grounds (amoung other things) before 2014. The corruption and power grabbing goes much deeper than just the organisation of football tournaments.

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by Kitsondinho » 04 Jun 2015 12:48

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Sutekh Latest from the BBC website

Former Fifa vice-president Jack Warner made a televised address in which he said he feared for his life in the wake of the corruption investigation.

Speaking in Trinidad, he said he could link Fifa officials to the 2010 election in Trinidad and Tobago.

"I will no longer keep secrets for them who actively seek to destroy the country," he said.

The US has launched a wide-ranging criminal case that engulfed Fifa and led President Sepp Blatter to resign.

Mr Warner has been indicted by the US with corruption, a charge he strongly denies.


Now FIFA officials could be involved in a country's election process :shock: looks like this saga is going to run and run. It's going to make for some film in a few years time.


If Jack Warner start singing the whole house of cards comes falling down, although given he's one of the worst would the US want to let him off just to get Blatter?



There's been accusations of corruption hanging over his head for about 25 years. Weren't also there allegations that he flogged a sizeable proportion of the T&T 2006 World Cup ticket allocation to the highest bidder and trouser the money himself?

As detailed in the excellent 'Foul' by Andrew Jennings.

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by PeterReadingborn59 » 04 Jun 2015 12:52

I think he meant a film that reflects the current events rather than some dreamy ideal that FIFA contributed to, but the film shows how £16 million self indulgent FIFA are. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/united-passions-review-fifas-hideous-5817599

The current system remains based on the old traditions where most involved gave up their own time to run football, and hand outs such as FA Cup final tickets were seen as a reward to those volunteers. Clearly time has passed and monies are available to pay officials, but the traditions of gifts as Dyke showed with his watch remain. So it does need a complete update from FIFA, to UEFA to the FA.
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Re: FIFA

by Sutekh » 04 Jun 2015 12:53

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Sutekh It's going to make for some film in a few years time.



You not seen "United Passions" with Tim Roth as Blatter, Gérard Depardieu as Jules Rimet and Sam Neill as João Havelange?





No?

Me neither...


Seriously? :lol: :lol: :lol:

I like the tag line, very appropriate.

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Re: FIFA

by PeterReadingborn59 » 04 Jun 2015 13:01

Zammo Blatter been charged with anything yet ? Nope. Thought not.

Zammo, do you think Blatter is not involved with misuse of FIFA funds and activities?

Do you believe Blatter's reason for leaving?
just a few days he won a vote in which he knew a lot of national FA's had not voted for him, he just resigns, hardly leaving the legacy he sought.

Just wondering.

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