8 home games left.

[windermereROYAL]

Blackburn, Rotherham, Wigan, Leeds, Preston, Brentford, WBA, Birmingham.

With the possible exception of Leeds and WBA these are all games we should be capable of getting something out of, mid table to lower reaches of the league,
24 points to play for, if for arguments sake we can get 15 points minimum that takes us to 40 points, that puts us within touching distance of the 46 points we will probably need to keep us up.
Football isn`t played on paper and there`s lots of work to be done yet but it certainly gives grounds for optimism.
The Swansea debacle aside Jose as got us playing much better on home turf with successive clean sheets
All we need now is to start scoring.

[Old Man Andrews]

Blackburn, Rotherham, Wigan, Leeds, Preston, Brentford, WBA, Birmingham.

With the possible exception of Leeds and WBA these are all games we should be capable of getting something out of, mid table to lower reaches of the league,
23 points to play for, if for arguments sake we can get 15 points minimum that takes us to 40 points, that puts us within touching distance of the 46 points we will probably need to keep us up.
Football isn`t played on paper and there`s lots of work to be done yet but it certainly gives grounds for optimism.
The Swansea debacle aside Jose as got us playing much better on home turf with successive clean sheets
All we need now is to start scoring.

We lost to Bolton at home FFS, nothing easy about those games.

[maffff]

23 points to play for? Do Leeds get one as a bonus for bringing more?

[windermereROYAL]

23 points to play for? Do Leeds get one as a bonus for bringing more?

Ok it was early,edited, I always know what to expect from the member that quoted me so that`s irrelevant.

[Old Man Andrews]

23 points to play for? Do Leeds get one as a bonus for bringing more?

Ok it was early, I always know what to expect from the member that quoted me so that`s irrelevant.

I was pointing out we shouldn't think that only the Leeds and WBA games are difficult. Wow.......

[windermereROYAL]

23 points to play for? Do Leeds get one as a bonus for bringing more?

Ok it was early, I always know what to expect from the member that quoted me so that`s irrelevant.

I was pointing out we shouldn't think that only the Leeds and WBA games are difficult. Wow.......

Point taken, but I firmly believe that we are improving at home since early season, Christ it could hardly be worse, whether that comes to fruition if a completely different matter.

[Old Man Andrews]

Ok it was early, I always know what to expect from the member that quoted me so that`s irrelevant.

I was pointing out we shouldn't think that only the Leeds and WBA games are difficult. Wow.......

Point taken, but I firmly believe that we are improving at home since early season, Christ it could hardly be worse, whether that comes to fruition if a completely different matter.

That Rotherham game could be the hardest one of the lot in reality. Yes on paper its by far the easiest but the amount of tension involved is huge, hoping the players don't freeze on the big ocassion like we did against Burton at home last season.

[Stranded]

No reason why we can't take points from all those games (we won't but we could). The 2 toughest ones being Leeds and WBA - Leeds are really starting to wobble (W3 L4 of last 7) so god knows what form they will be in by mid-March.

[Victor Meldrew]

Blackburn, Rotherham, Wigan, Leeds, Preston, Brentford, WBA, Birmingham.

With the possible exception of Leeds and WBA these are all games we should be capable of getting something out of, mid table to lower reaches of the league,
24 points to play for, if for arguments sake we can get 15 points minimum that takes us to 40 points, that puts us within touching distance of the 46 points we will probably need to keep us up.
Football isn`t played on paper and there`s lots of work to be done yet but it certainly gives grounds for optimism.
The Swansea debacle aside Jose as got us playing much better on home turf with successive clean sheets
All we need now is to start scoring.

15 points out of 24 is not far off promotion form-do you really think we have improved that much?
Also, posters in other topics take the same view that the defence has now been sorted out and "all we need now is to start scoring"

You may have said that tongue in cheek but it is the hardest thing to do in football.
It is not too difficult to aim for a 0-0 with great emphasis on defending, it is far more difficult to create chances and score.

I would go along with the idea of one step at a time, i.e. get the defence sorted out and then build if this were the start of the season where every team is on a level basis but it is far from being the start of the season and we are playing catch-up.

I think we should be going all out for wins in our away games-it doesn't matter if we get dicked at Sheff Utd if we have won at Sheff Wed-it is better than getting 0-0s in both games.

I think this season will go right to the wire and draws just won't be good enough.

[Maneki Neko]

I think we should be going all out for wins in our away games-it doesn't matter if we get dicked at Sheff Utd if we have won at Sheff Wed-it is better than getting 0-0s in both games.

but two 0-0 draws would be better than losing both games, so...

I think this season will go right to the wire and draws just won't be good enough.

but some draws added to some wins, might be

(I agree with you tbf just playing devils advocaat)

[Hopeful]

Plus goal difference could be worth a point end of season - so I wouldn't want to be dicked by anyone. So to speak.
Mathematically agree of course that 3 points is, er, better than 2...but getting dicked would impact morale a lot more.

[genome]

(I agree with you tbf just playing devils advocaat)

I've heard he's more of a whiskey drinker myself.

[John Smith]

Ok it was early, I always know what to expect from the member that quoted me so that`s irrelevant.

I was pointing out we shouldn't think that only the Leeds and WBA games are difficult. Wow.......

Point taken, but I firmly believe that we are improving at home since early season, Christ it could hardly be worse, whether that comes to fruition if a completely different matter.

Are you serious? Our last win before the one against a manager-less team down to 9 men was on November 3rd. We couldn't even beat bottom of the table in that time. Draws are simply not good enough.

[Stranded]

Blackburn, Rotherham, Wigan, Leeds, Preston, Brentford, WBA, Birmingham.

With the possible exception of Leeds and WBA these are all games we should be capable of getting something out of, mid table to lower reaches of the league,
24 points to play for, if for arguments sake we can get 15 points minimum that takes us to 40 points, that puts us within touching distance of the 46 points we will probably need to keep us up.
Football isn`t played on paper and there`s lots of work to be done yet but it certainly gives grounds for optimism.
The Swansea debacle aside Jose as got us playing much better on home turf with successive clean sheets
All we need now is to start scoring.

15 points out of 24 is not far off promotion form-do you really think we have improved that much?
Also, posters in other topics take the same view that the defence has now been sorted out and "all we need now is to start scoring"

You may have said that tongue in cheek but it is the hardest thing to do in football.
It is not too difficult to aim for a 0-0 with great emphasis on defending, it is far more difficult to create chances and score.

I would go along with the idea of one step at a time, i.e. get the defence sorted out and then build if this were the start of the season where every team is on a level basis but it is far from being the start of the season and we are playing catch-up.

I think we should be going all out for wins in our away games-it doesn't matter if we get dicked at Sheff Utd if we have won at Sheff Wed-it is better than getting 0-0s in both games.

I think this season will go right to the wire and draws just won't be good enough.

15 out of 24 is promotion form but only if you take it over a run of 8 games in a row - these are spread over the rest of the season - is 15 more home points over the rest of the season really a massive shock - could argue it is a minimum need. 15pts from these 24 great, but it could easily be 15pts from 48 depending on the away form, which is essentially our form now and would not be enough.

Agree we need to take it one game at a time - would be a boost to get a result at Weds and then go from there.

[Snowflake Royal]

Blackburn, Rotherham, Wigan, Leeds, Preston, Brentford, WBA, Birmingham.

With the possible exception of Leeds and WBA these are all games we should be capable of getting something out of, mid table to lower reaches of the league,
24 points to play for, if for arguments sake we can get 15 points minimum that takes us to 40 points, that puts us within touching distance of the 46 points we will probably need to keep us up.
Football isn`t played on paper and there`s lots of work to be done yet but it certainly gives grounds for optimism.
The Swansea debacle aside Jose as got us playing much better on home turf with successive clean sheets
All we need now is to start scoring.

15 points out of 24 is not far off promotion form-do you really think we have improved that much?
Also, posters in other topics take the same view that the defence has now been sorted out and "all we need now is to start scoring"

You may have said that tongue in cheek but it is the hardest thing to do in football.
It is not too difficult to aim for a 0-0 with great emphasis on defending, it is far more difficult to create chances and score.

I would go along with the idea of one step at a time, i.e. get the defence sorted out and then build if this were the start of the season where every team is on a level basis but it is far from being the start of the season and we are playing catch-up.

I think we should be going all out for wins in our away games-it doesn't matter if we get dicked at Sheff Utd if we have won at Sheff Wed-it is better than getting 0-0s in both games.

I think this season will go right to the wire and draws just won't be good enough.

15 out of 24 is promotion form but only if you take it over a run of 8 games in a row - these are spread over the rest of the season - is 15 more home points over the rest of the season really a massive shock - could argue it is a minimum need. 15pts from these 24 great, but it could easily be 15pts from 48 depending on the away form, which is essentially our form now and would not be enough.

Agree we need to take it one game at a time - would be a boost to get a result at Weds and then go from there.

8 points from the last 15 would begin looking pretty promising. Even 6 would be three unbeaten and a platform to build from, if much the same as ever. Lose and it'll feel like 1 step forward 2 steps back.

[Lower West]

May do better away from home. Counter attacking may suit the team better. Far too slow in the build up at the moment. Which allows opposition defences to regroup.

Might have kept a clean sheet on Saturday. But Villa for long periods we're more likely to score.

[Rea Ding]

May do better away from home. Counter attacking may suit the team better. Far too slow in the build up at the moment. Which allows opposition defences to regroup.

Might have kept a clean sheet on Saturday. But Villa for long periods we're more likely to score.

I agree with this, I think if we stay up our away form will have a lot to do with it. I feel Saturday away at Wednesday is a big game we could nick all 3 points along with the trip to Ipswich.

[windermereROYAL]

Might have kept a clean sheet on Saturday. But Villa for long periods we're more likely to score.

Yes that`s quite shocking from a team thats only failed to score in 2 games before Saturday all season. they had spells in both halves but to call them long periods is probably wide of the mark.

[Snowflake Royal]

Iirc the highlights showed one fairly average save for them off Oliveira and nothing much else and two smart saves from Martinez plus one off the post for them.

Obvs only highlights, but they looked like there was only one team likely to take the three points if anyone did.

Also not saying we didn't deserve the clean sheet.

[Old Man Andrews]

Iirc the highlights showed one fairly average save for them off Oliveira and nothing much else and two smart saves from Martinez plus one off the post for them.

Obvs only highlights, but they looked like there was only one team likely to take the three points if anyone did.

Also not saying we didn't deserve the clean sheet.

Am I right in saying we had no shots on target in the 2nd half? We seemed fairly happy with a draw from about 60 minutes onwards.