Bowen Out.

[paultheroyal]

We'd be 11th, four points off the top 6.

https://www.twtd.co.uk/league-tables/co ... -and-away/

Excellent - thank you.

Table misses off the Preston win in his first game

https://www.twtd.co.uk/league-tables/co ... -and-away/

Makes us 7th - 1 point outside the top 6.

Ah wow. So in other words his appointment has been something of a revelation you could say.

[Stranded]

Excellent - thank you.

Table misses off the Preston win in his first game

https://www.twtd.co.uk/league-tables/co ... -and-away/

Makes us 7th - 1 point outside the top 6.

Ah wow. So in other words his appointment has been something of a revelation you could say.

Not sure about revelation but pretty damn good appointment to date.

In terms of comparison, in his 26 games in charge he has won more games as manager than (# of games in brackets):

Gomes (38)
Clement (30)
McDermott Mark II (30)
Rodgers (23)

[Snowball]

If the table is done from the moment Bowen was appointed - where would we be league position wise? Anyone done that stat?

Top of Page 2

01 22 13 04 05 45 18 +27 43 Points Brentford
02 22 11 08 03 38 23 +15 41 Points West Bromwich Albion
03 22 11 06 05 33 23 +10 39 Points Leeds
04 22 11 04 07 27 26 +01 37 Points Fulham
05 22 10 06 06 35 23 +12 36 Points Blackburn
06 22 09 08 05 30 24 +06 35 Points Millwall

07 22 09 07 06 30 20 +10 34 Points Reading <<<<<

08 22 08 10 04 32 29 +03 34 Points Cardiff
09 22 09 06 07 29 24 +05 33 Points Nottingham Forest
10 22 10 03 09 30 33 -03 33 Points Bristol City
11 22 09 05 08 24 25 -01 32 Points Preston
12 22 09 02 11 30 31 -01 29 Points Stoke

[Hendo]

If the table is done from the moment Bowen was appointed - where would we be league position wise? Anyone done that stat?

Top of Page 2

01 22 13 04 05 45 18 +27 43 Points Brentford
02 22 11 08 03 38 23 +15 41 Points West Bromwich Albion
03 22 11 06 05 33 23 +10 39 Points Leeds
04 22 11 04 07 27 26 +01 37 Points Fulham
05 22 10 06 06 35 23 +12 36 Points Blackburn
06 22 09 08 05 30 24 +06 35 Points Millwall

07 22 09 07 06 30 20 +10 34 Points Reading <<<<<

08 22 08 10 04 32 29 +03 34 Points Cardiff
09 22 09 06 07 29 24 +05 33 Points Nottingham Forest
10 22 10 03 09 30 33 -03 33 Points Bristol City
11 22 09 05 08 24 25 -01 32 Points Preston
12 22 09 02 11 30 31 -01 29 Points Stoke

I'm assuming they meant a readable table...

[Snowball]

If the table is done from the moment Bowen was appointed - where would we be league position wise? Anyone done that stat?

Top of Page 2

01 22 13 04 05 45 18 +27 43 Points Brentford
02 22 11 08 03 38 23 +15 41 Points West Bromwich Albion
03 22 11 06 05 33 23 +10 39 Points Leeds
04 22 11 04 07 27 26 +01 37 Points Fulham
05 22 10 06 06 35 23 +12 36 Points Blackburn
06 22 09 08 05 30 24 +06 35 Points Millwall

07 22 09 07 06 30 20 +10 34 Points Reading <<<<<

08 22 08 10 04 32 29 +03 34 Points Cardiff
09 22 09 06 07 29 24 +05 33 Points Nottingham Forest
10 22 10 03 09 30 33 -03 33 Points Bristol City
11 22 09 05 08 24 25 -01 32 Points Preston
12 22 09 02 11 30 31 -01 29 Points Stoke

I'm assuming they meant a readable table...

I keep forgetting to allow for the low-IQ readers

07 22 09 07 06 30 20 +10 34 Points Reading <<<<<

7th
P22
W09
D07
L 06
Goals 30-20
GD 10
34 Points (hint that's what 34 Points means)


Reading is short fort Reading Football Club



Hope that clarifies

[Hendo]

Top of Page 2

01 22 13 04 05 45 18 +27 43 Points Brentford
02 22 11 08 03 38 23 +15 41 Points West Bromwich Albion
03 22 11 06 05 33 23 +10 39 Points Leeds
04 22 11 04 07 27 26 +01 37 Points Fulham
05 22 10 06 06 35 23 +12 36 Points Blackburn
06 22 09 08 05 30 24 +06 35 Points Millwall

07 22 09 07 06 30 20 +10 34 Points Reading <<<<<

08 22 08 10 04 32 29 +03 34 Points Cardiff
09 22 09 06 07 29 24 +05 33 Points Nottingham Forest
10 22 10 03 09 30 33 -03 33 Points Bristol City
11 22 09 05 08 24 25 -01 32 Points Preston
12 22 09 02 11 30 31 -01 29 Points Stoke

I'm assuming they meant a readable table...

I keep forgetting to allow for the low-IQ readers

07 22 09 07 06 30 20 +10 34 Points Reading <<<<<

7th
P22
W09
D07
L 06
Goals 30-20
GD 10
34 Points (hint that's what 34 Points means)


Reading is short fort Reading Football Club



Hope that clarifies

Alright m9, no need to get so defensive. Your table just looks like a string of lottery numbers. Maybe increase the spacing or chuck a few dividers or headers in to make it a bit easier to read, like:

PN / PL / WN / DW / LS / GS / GA / GD
01 / 22 / 13 / 04 / 05 / 45 / 18 / +27 / 43 Points / Brentford

[Old Man Andrews]

I'm assuming they meant a readable table...

I keep forgetting to allow for the low-IQ readers

07 22 09 07 06 30 20 +10 34 Points Reading <<<<<

7th
P22
W09
D07
L 06
Goals 30-20
GD 10
34 Points (hint that's what 34 Points means)


Reading is short fort Reading Football Club



Hope that clarifies

Alright m9, no need to get so defensive. Your table just looks like a string of lottery numbers. Maybe increase the spacing or chuck a few dividers or headers in to make it a bit easier to read, like:

PN / PL / WN / DW / LS / GS / GA / GD
01 / 22 / 13 / 04 / 05 / 45 / 18 / +27 / 43 Points / Brentford

Hendo picking holes again.....

[Hendo]

I keep forgetting to allow for the low-IQ readers

07 22 09 07 06 30 20 +10 34 Points Reading <<<<<

7th
P22
W09
D07
L 06
Goals 30-20
GD 10
34 Points (hint that's what 34 Points means)


Reading is short fort Reading Football Club



Hope that clarifies

Alright m9, no need to get so defensive. Your table just looks like a string of lottery numbers. Maybe increase the spacing or chuck a few dividers or headers in to make it a bit easier to read, like:

PN / PL / WN / DW / LS / GS / GA / GD
01 / 22 / 13 / 04 / 05 / 45 / 18 / +27 / 43 Points / Brentford

Hendo picking holes again.....

[Snowflake Royal]

Top of Page 2

01 22 13 04 05 45 18 +27 43 Points Brentford
02 22 11 08 03 38 23 +15 41 Points West Bromwich Albion
03 22 11 06 05 33 23 +10 39 Points Leeds
04 22 11 04 07 27 26 +01 37 Points Fulham
05 22 10 06 06 35 23 +12 36 Points Blackburn
06 22 09 08 05 30 24 +06 35 Points Millwall

07 22 09 07 06 30 20 +10 34 Points Reading <<<<<

08 22 08 10 04 32 29 +03 34 Points Cardiff
09 22 09 06 07 29 24 +05 33 Points Nottingham Forest
10 22 10 03 09 30 33 -03 33 Points Bristol City
11 22 09 05 08 24 25 -01 32 Points Preston
12 22 09 02 11 30 31 -01 29 Points Stoke

I'm assuming they meant a readable table...

I keep forgetting to allow for the low-IQ readers

Try writing it with yourself as the target audience then.

[leon]

Christ, the Team Board is full of bitchy little madams.

[genome]

You must be ne... oh nevermind

[Snowflake Royal]

It's better than the last few pages of the Leeds thread

[genome]

Careful, he'll be along any second

[Greatwesternline]

Since Bowen started he has had a hooneymoon period though.

You would expect him to have a good three of four games where the players play better than average, as they have a new boss to impress.

Adjusting for that, is it that impressive? It is solid.

Next season he won't have a honeymoon period. And given the sums we spent last summer he is unlikely to find his squad materially improving. It might need some sales to avoid FFP rearing its head again which i'm sure it will.

He will have to improve on this season just to keep still. Maybe he can do that. Its possible. I'm not sure it was worth throwing a new contract at him within a few months of being hired.

[Old Man Andrews]

Careful, he'll be along any second

Snipey snipey.

[genome]

There you go

[leon]

It's better than the last few pages of the Leeds thread

That’s a bit like saying eating cat shit is better than eating dog shit

[Zip]

Since Bowen started he has had a hooneymoon period though.

You would expect him to have a good three of four games where the players play better than average, as they have a new boss to impress.

Adjusting for that, is it that impressive? It is solid.

Next season he won't have a honeymoon period. And given the sums we spent last summer he is unlikely to find his squad materially improving. It might need some sales to avoid FFP rearing its head again which i'm sure it will.

He will have to improve on this season just to keep still. Maybe he can do that. Its possible. I'm not sure it was worth throwing a new contract at him within a few months of being hired.

There is no guarantee of a honeymoon period for any manager so he should be judged on his record to date which is good, Whether he can maintain or even better that remains to be seen but he deserves credit to date.

[Old Man Andrews]

It's better than the last few pages of the Leeds thread

That’s a bit like saying eating cat shit is better than eating dog shit

Yeah people talking about the Leeds game in the Leeds thread is so awful.

[Snowflake Royal]

Since Bowen started he has had a hooneymoon period though.

You would expect him to have a good three of four games where the players play better than average, as they have a new boss to impress.

Adjusting for that, is it that impressive? It is solid.

Next season he won't have a honeymoon period. And given the sums we spent last summer he is unlikely to find his squad materially improving. It might need some sales to avoid FFP rearing its head again which i'm sure it will.

He will have to improve on this season just to keep still. Maybe he can do that. Its possible. I'm not sure it was worth throwing a new contract at him within a few months of being hired.

It's still roughly 25 points in 18 games, which is about 1.4 points per game and a 64 point season. SO a clear improvement on what went before. Ontop of that, with all our recent managerial changes we've seen that the new manager bounce is a bit of a myth and there's no real reason to think that Bowen's first three / four games should be discounted.

As for next season, we lose a lot of wages off the bill. McCleary, Gunter, Blackett and Obita all leave or need new deals. Plus we lose a major loss season from the accounting period.