MATCHWATCH : Preston North End (a)

[Hound]

There's no other way of putting it - the last week has been devastating for the club's season. Not just the results, or opponents coming up with unlikely results, just the combination of everything going in the worst possible way.

We've been flirting with this fate for multiple years and we're finally succumb to footballing gravity: If you're a poorly run club, gambling on untested managers and upsetting the authorities, then you're eventually going to get relegated. This has been coming, and is probably deserved.

I personally have more respect for PInce than others on here. If the owners had sorted out the finances to avoid the deduction then we'd be talking about how we just about survived. PInce didn't take us into the relegation zone - our mismanagement did. That's not to say that he comes out of this with much credit either though.

It’s easiest to just blame one man and think that we’d be all fine it ince wasn’t in charge. It’s just not the case; the team is poor, loads of injuries, no confidence. Agree he has certainly contributed significantly to our dreadful run this calendar year though and worth Bowen just having a go because we will go down otherwise

[Elm Park Kid]

It’s not about quality it’s about organisation and planning . It’s about players knowing what to do and why they’re doing it.

This team hasn’t got a oxf*rd clue. They should because they actually aren’t a bad side. A half decent manager would get them playing a lot lot better than this twat has.

This is just delusional. On what basis do you rate them as 'not a bad side'? Which players in our squad have proven themselves as decent quality championship players elsewhere? If they're so good then why weren't we able to sell any of them despite that being a vital goal in our business plan?

[Hound]

We were only in the game for a few minutes in the second half . We were totally dominated by PNE . Play like that and we don’t deserve to be in this league .

We’ve played like that all season tbh

[Royal_jimmy]

Ince just has to go and now. I was thinking meh it's pointless but I've had enough now.

[Hound]

It’s not about quality it’s about organisation and planning . It’s about players knowing what to do and why they’re doing it.

This team hasn’t got a oxf*rd clue. They should because they actually aren’t a bad side. A half decent manager would get them playing a lot lot better than this twat has.

This is just delusional. On what basis do you rate them as 'not a bad side'? Which players in our squad have proven themselves as decent quality championship players elsewhere? If they're so good then why weren't we able to sell any of them despite that being a vital goal in our business plan?

We’re a bottom 5 side with a bottom 5 manager. We’re where I’d expect us to be

[Uke]

The dressing room will be interesting at the moment

Think Carroll and others will not hold back

[Fezza]

The dressing room will be interesting at the moment

Think Carroll and others will not hold back

He hardly covered himself in glory when he was on the pitch

[biff]

Hendrick knocking it back to Lumley from the edge of their box. Someone check his skybet the pr1ck.

[leon]

It’s not about quality it’s about organisation and planning . It’s about players knowing what to do and why they’re doing it.

This team hasn’t got a oxf*rd clue. They should because they actually aren’t a bad side. A half decent manager would get them playing a lot lot better than this twat has.

This is just delusional. On what basis do you rate them as 'not a bad side'? Which players in our squad have proven themselves as decent quality championship players elsewhere? If they're so good then why weren't we able to sell any of them despite that being a vital goal in our business plan?

I’m delusional? Fcuking LOL.

You’re the one consistently making excuses for Ince despite the avalanche of evidence to the contrary.

We have a striker who’s played and scored at the highest level and we persist in playing 10% balls to him to knock down to no one.

We play with zero width/cross balls in in to the box despite playing said striker who’s strong in the air.

We have a young left back who can cross the ball for said striker who rarely plays.

This team actually isn’t that bad because I’ve seen them play well on occasions this season. Bowen did a good job. As Vision pointed out most teams in this league have a mixture of experienced and inexperienced players.

And besides coming out and saying your team is shit at football as Ince did is not just appalling management it’s also utterly moronic.

But you crack on making excuses for him.

[leon]

It’s not about quality it’s about organisation and planning . It’s about players knowing what to do and why they’re doing it.

This team hasn’t got a oxf*rd clue. They should because they actually aren’t a bad side. A half decent manager would get them playing a lot lot better than this twat has.

This is just delusional. On what basis do you rate them as 'not a bad side'? Which players in our squad have proven themselves as decent quality championship players elsewhere? If they're so good then why weren't we able to sell any of them despite that being a vital goal in our business plan?

We’re a bottom 5 side with a bottom 5 manager. We’re where I’d expect us to be

The second half of that first sentence is correct. The first is very much up for debate.

[Ascotexgunner]

Hendrick knocking it back to Lumley from the edge of their box. Someone check his skybet the pr1ck.

Unbelievable that. Led to their winner. He had time to put his foot on the ball, not a white shirt in sight, rather than drive forward with plenty in support he passed the ball back from inside the Preston half.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

It’s not about quality it’s about organisation and planning . It’s about players knowing what to do and why they’re doing it.

This team hasn’t got a oxf*rd clue. They should because they actually aren’t a bad side. A half decent manager would get them playing a lot lot better than this twat has.

It's not that we don't have a plan or aren't organised though. We aren't a secret, we know exactly what we will get each week, so do the opposition and that's working against us. It does come down to a lack of quality.

Players like Swift, Joao, Meite etc have been digging us out each season, Meite and Joao are a shadow of themselves (although the latter did ok today) which comes down to how we play. But it's those brilliant moments from the odd high quality players we've had that have pulled us out of it in the end.

The teams with the lowest amount of quality go down, usually through a combination of factors. Inept management and low quality players usually being two of the main reasons why.

[Uke]

“Lack of concentration” FFS Ince

Blaming players again

[Hound]

I think we’ve played well about twice all season. Blackburn and Norwich at home. May be a couple of battling wins could be classed as borderline playing well.

[genome]

Ince just solely blaming the players...

[Millsy]

Ince is actually saying we're crap because players are making bad decisions.

Perhaps if they had decent leadership and a solid gameplan they wouldn't have to make spur of the moment decisions on their own.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

There's no other way of putting it - the last week has been devastating for the club's season. Not just the results, or opponents coming up with unlikely results, just the combination of everything going in the worst possible way.

We've been flirting with this fate for multiple years and we're finally succumb to footballing gravity: If you're a poorly run club, gambling on untested managers and upsetting the authorities, then you're eventually going to get relegated. This has been coming, and is probably deserved.

I personally have more respect for PInce than others on here. If the owners had sorted out the finances to avoid the deduction then we'd be talking about how we just about survived. PInce didn't take us into the relegation zone - our mismanagement did. That's not to say that he comes out of this with much credit either though.

It’s easiest to just blame one man and think that we’d be all fine it ince wasn’t in charge. It’s just not the case; the team is poor, loads of injuries, no confidence. Agree he has certainly contributed significantly to our dreadful run this calendar year though and worth Bowen just having a go because we will go down otherwise

Agree with that - although I don't really want Bowen stepping in personally speaking. Just leave him to do his job, if we were going to do it give it to Gilkes or Hunt maybe or whoever, not Bowen. He's not exactly got a fantastic record of firefighting himself.

[Doolittle]

I feel sorry for the players. Ince keeps picking these unbalanced teams that lack mobility. In particular, if you're going to play three at the back, at least two of them have to be reasonably quick. Leaving out the most athletic option (Mbengue), and playing Sarr, Dann and Holmes together was just hopeless - they all kept dropping deep, so the 6-yard box was packed while Preston had acres of space around the penalty spot.

[retro royal]

Who the hell gave Sarr a 4 year deal, worst CB since Elroy

[YorkshireRoyal99]

I think we’ve played well about twice all season. Blackburn and Norwich at home. May be a couple of battling wins could be classed as borderline playing well.

Agree with that as well. We are where we are because we just simply aren't good enough, we were just overperforming, in terms of results, in the first half of the season and I think it's because there was no expectation on us, we were dead certainties to go down in many people's eyes alongside Birmingham and Rotherham.

We've not set up or played that much differently throughout the campaign. The players might be getting worse, but I think that probably comes down to age as well, many players we've been relying on are all on the wrong side of 30 and likely to regress.