What's positive at the moment?

User avatar
CountryRoyal
Hob Nob Super-Addict
Posts: 10697
Joined: 12 Aug 2011 13:44

Re: What's positive at the moment?

by CountryRoyal » 30 Jul 2023 16:54

South Coast Royal Interesting that 5 of those are centre-backs.
My brother and I were talking about this last year that during our many years as fans of the club there have been so few home-grown successful strikers and we wondered why that is.

Austin and Wickham have been on our books coming through the system but , apart from Archie Lovell and at a push Simon Cox who else have we brought through as successful strikers.?

The likes of Senior, Dixon, Quinn, Doyle, Forster, Long, Cureton , Butler, Goater, Kitson, Le Fondre, Joao and Kermorgant have come from elsewhere and have been good enough to play at the higher levels so why no home-growns?


Without basing it on anything, maybe the better strikers get snapped up by bigger clubs sooner?

windermereROYAL
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 8749
Joined: 19 Feb 2008 11:18

Re: What's positive at the moment?

by windermereROYAL » 30 Jul 2023 17:20

Shit summer, my team is going to the dogs, nothing.

User avatar
CountryRoyal
Hob Nob Super-Addict
Posts: 10697
Joined: 12 Aug 2011 13:44

Re: What's positive at the moment?

by CountryRoyal » 30 Jul 2023 17:26

windermereROYAL Shit summer, my team is going to the dogs, nothing.


Yeah not quite what we’re going for.

YorkshireRoyal99
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 5005
Joined: 10 Aug 2017 18:07

Re: What's positive at the moment?

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 30 Jul 2023 18:52

CountryRoyal
South Coast Royal Interesting that 5 of those are centre-backs.
My brother and I were talking about this last year that during our many years as fans of the club there have been so few home-grown successful strikers and we wondered why that is.

Austin and Wickham have been on our books coming through the system but , apart from Archie Lovell and at a push Simon Cox who else have we brought through as successful strikers.?

The likes of Senior, Dixon, Quinn, Doyle, Forster, Long, Cureton , Butler, Goater, Kitson, Le Fondre, Joao and Kermorgant have come from elsewhere and have been good enough to play at the higher levels so why no home-growns?


Without basing it on anything, maybe the better strikers get snapped up by bigger clubs sooner?


Luca Fletcher the most recent example after City signed him.

User avatar
CountryRoyal
Hob Nob Super-Addict
Posts: 10697
Joined: 12 Aug 2011 13:44

Re: What's positive at the moment?

by CountryRoyal » 30 Jul 2023 19:04

YorkshireRoyal99
CountryRoyal
South Coast Royal Interesting that 5 of those are centre-backs.
My brother and I were talking about this last year that during our many years as fans of the club there have been so few home-grown successful strikers and we wondered why that is.

Austin and Wickham have been on our books coming through the system but , apart from Archie Lovell and at a push Simon Cox who else have we brought through as successful strikers.?

The likes of Senior, Dixon, Quinn, Doyle, Forster, Long, Cureton , Butler, Goater, Kitson, Le Fondre, Joao and Kermorgant have come from elsewhere and have been good enough to play at the higher levels so why no home-growns?


Without basing it on anything, maybe the better strikers get snapped up by bigger clubs sooner?


Luca Fletcher the most recent example after City signed him.


Yeah but I meant even at a younger age where we wouldn’t hear about them.


YorkshireRoyal99
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 5005
Joined: 10 Aug 2017 18:07

Re: What's positive at the moment?

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 30 Jul 2023 19:09

CountryRoyal
YorkshireRoyal99
CountryRoyal
Without basing it on anything, maybe the better strikers get snapped up by bigger clubs sooner?


Luca Fletcher the most recent example after City signed him.


Yeah but I meant even at a younger age where we wouldn’t hear about them.


Fair enough, what age did we release Austin at? Was it under 16? Ndiaye at Sheff Utd is another example of a forward we got rid of.

User avatar
CountryRoyal
Hob Nob Super-Addict
Posts: 10697
Joined: 12 Aug 2011 13:44

Re: What's positive at the moment?

by CountryRoyal » 30 Jul 2023 19:10

YorkshireRoyal99 Ndiaye at Sheff Utd is another example of a forward we got rid of.


Never knew that!

YorkshireRoyal99
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 5005
Joined: 10 Aug 2017 18:07

Re: What's positive at the moment?

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 30 Jul 2023 19:26

CountryRoyal
YorkshireRoyal99 Ndiaye at Sheff Utd is another example of a forward we got rid of.


Never knew that!


Well, going back over it, he was never actually on our books, however allegedly he was turned away by ourselves where he was told that he would never play in an academy as he was too small.

User avatar
Ascotexgunner
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 6201
Joined: 07 Jan 2012 16:23
Location: Ascot

Re: What's positive at the moment?

by Ascotexgunner » 30 Jul 2023 19:35

I'm finding less and less positives. Listening to that Reading fan on BBC 606 almost had me in tears....he was trying so hard to get his words out. I've just seen one blogger saying they would take administration and 12 point deduction just to get rid of this owner. Where are we going from here?


User avatar
CountryRoyal
Hob Nob Super-Addict
Posts: 10697
Joined: 12 Aug 2011 13:44

Re: What's positive at the moment?

by CountryRoyal » 30 Jul 2023 19:42

YorkshireRoyal99
CountryRoyal
YorkshireRoyal99 Ndiaye at Sheff Utd is another example of a forward we got rid of.


Never knew that!


Well, going back over it, he was never actually on our books, however allegedly he was turned away by ourselves where he was told that he would never play in an academy as he was too small.


ah yes that old chestnut.

Not like the best players in the history of the sport weren’t midgets.

And also puberty is a thing and kids get bigger, mad ay.

User avatar
Snowflake Royal
Hob Nob Legend
Posts: 46766
Joined: 20 Jun 2017 17:51

Re: What's positive at the moment?

by Snowflake Royal » 30 Jul 2023 19:53

YorkshireRoyal99
Snowflake Royal
YorkshireRoyal99
Getting the time for the academy players might be the issue, as well as the opportunity. Doesn't sound great when our own manager says we need 10 players and we are nowhere near ready for the season when that's less than a week away now.

Even if our situation, you'd think it would be good to give them more of an opportunity, but with the way the club is and just the whole atmosphere, I can imagine it turning pretty sour, pretty quickly. Half the fanbase will be wanting shut of these academy players if they end up playing a significant role in a failing season.

Well he can't have 10 new players, so he can put up and deal or oxf*rd off. As can any fan who gets toxic with academy lads doing their best after the club has got a double fisting by that pcunt Dai.


Doing your best isn't always good enough and it certainly doesn't translate to results either. I personally don't see why it should be different for a 30 year old, experienced pro at a certain level or a 20 year old kid coming from your academy. You are either good enough, or you aren't. Of course, managing the younger player is different, but if they aren't doing something well enough, it needs addressing.

To be honest, I'd hardly blame Selles if he did decide this job isn't for him. Difficulties come with any job of course, but I suspect one reason he wouldn't walk is because it would tarnish his reputation as of right now.

He doesn’t have a reputation.

Sutekh
Hob Nob Legend
Posts: 23337
Joined: 12 Feb 2014 14:05
Location: Over the hills and far away

Re: What's positive at the moment?

by Sutekh » 30 Jul 2023 22:13

Can't sign any more dross on megabuck salaries until at least 2025.

Millsy
Hob Nob Super-Addict
Posts: 10287
Joined: 16 Jul 2004 18:36
Location: Lefty echochamber scared of free speech

Re: What's positive at the moment?

by Millsy » 31 Jul 2023 11:58

Admittedly the recent new transfer embargo is a bit of a downer, but hand on heart I'm excited and happy as a Reading fan.

Perhaps it's just nostalgia, but I am feeling this great buzz of having younger hungry players in a club trying to get up to the champ. I had happy days at the Madstad in the third tier. Loved following Reading then. That love faded the more successful we got.

So overall I'm feeling genuinely positive. Bring on the new season!


User avatar
CountryRoyal
Hob Nob Super-Addict
Posts: 10697
Joined: 12 Aug 2011 13:44

Re: What's positive at the moment?

by CountryRoyal » 31 Jul 2023 15:20

Millsy Admittedly the recent new transfer embargo is a bit of a downer, but hand on heart I'm excited and happy as a Reading fan.

Perhaps it's just nostalgia, but I am feeling this great buzz of having younger hungry players in a club trying to get up to the champ. I had happy days at the Madstad in the third tier. Loved following Reading then. That love faded the more successful we got.

So overall I'm feeling genuinely positive. Bring on the new season!


You need a doctor lad.

User avatar
Hendo
Hob Nob Legend
Posts: 22941
Joined: 25 Mar 2012 20:53
Location: Lambs to the cosmic slaughter

Re: What's positive at the moment?

by Hendo » 31 Jul 2023 15:38

Still playing cricket until September, so will miss the first month of the season.

Sutekh
Hob Nob Legend
Posts: 23337
Joined: 12 Feb 2014 14:05
Location: Over the hills and far away

Re: What's positive at the moment?

by Sutekh » 31 Jul 2023 16:38

Hendo Still playing cricket until September, so will miss the first month of the season.


Crikey, that's a long game, even for cricket.

Stranded
Hob Nob Subscriber
Hob Nob Subscriber
Posts: 20883
Joined: 14 Apr 2004 12:42
Location: Propping up the bar in the Nags

Re: What's positive at the moment?

by Stranded » 31 Jul 2023 16:48

Noticed my annual subscription to Royals TV is valid until the 20th August, so I'll get the first 3 games "free" then can decide if I pay for the season.

Forbury Lion
Hob Nob Subscriber
Hob Nob Subscriber
Posts: 9618
Joined: 14 Apr 2004 08:37
Location: https://youtu.be/c4sX57ZUhzc

Re: What's positive at the moment?

by Forbury Lion » 31 Jul 2023 17:06

Bad taste thread if it's a ploy to announce a positive pregnancy test to another nobber or alert sexual partners of a bad positive result.

Sutekh
Hob Nob Legend
Posts: 23337
Joined: 12 Feb 2014 14:05
Location: Over the hills and far away

Re: What's positive at the moment?

by Sutekh » 31 Jul 2023 17:43

CountryRoyal
South Coast Royal Interesting that 5 of those are centre-backs.
My brother and I were talking about this last year that during our many years as fans of the club there have been so few home-grown successful strikers and we wondered why that is.

Austin and Wickham have been on our books coming through the system but , apart from Archie Lovell and at a push Simon Cox who else have we brought through as successful strikers.?

The likes of Senior, Dixon, Quinn, Doyle, Forster, Long, Cureton , Butler, Goater, Kitson, Le Fondre, Joao and Kermorgant have come from elsewhere and have been good enough to play at the higher levels so why no home-growns?


Without basing it on anything, maybe the better strikers get snapped up by bigger clubs sooner?


Reading produced Simon Cox, Simon Church, think they would have produced Charlie Austin but decided he was too small and released him :roll: , Connor Wickham left when his family moved to Essex, Nathan Tyson (the last quick player) and Darren Henderson other than that Sam Smith is just starting out and is back with the club anyway.

But then this is the club that told Peter Osgood to go away when he was looking to start his career so doesn't have a brilliant record with young strikers overall.

User avatar
Hendo
Hob Nob Legend
Posts: 22941
Joined: 25 Mar 2012 20:53
Location: Lambs to the cosmic slaughter

Re: What's positive at the moment?

by Hendo » 01 Aug 2023 08:42

Sutekh
Hendo Still playing cricket until September, so will miss the first month of the season.


Crikey, that's a long game, even for cricket.


I see what you did there :!:

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Elm Park Old Boy, Hove Royal and 353 guests

It is currently 10 Sep 2025 16:58