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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Snowflake Royal » 30 Oct 2023 08:13

Brogue Yep I’ve been shocked at how much hate there is towards him. Are they fcuking stupid? We ain’t getting anyone better than Ashley. We are bottom of league one ffs we should just be grateful anyone is interested at all let alone someone of that calibre

The truth is, most people on the socials don't have the first clue about football in general or the club in detail.

They've seen years of Ashley getting hate from Newcastle fans so it's just taken as read he's awful.

Plus he's a pretty odious toad of a man.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by WestYorksRoyal » 30 Oct 2023 08:24

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Brogue Yep I’ve been shocked at how much hate there is towards him. Are they fcuking stupid? We ain’t getting anyone better than Ashley. We are bottom of league one ffs we should just be grateful anyone is interested at all let alone someone of that calibre

The truth is, most people on the socials don't have the first clue about football in general or the club in detail.

They've seen years of Ashley getting hate from Newcastle fans so it's just taken as read he's awful.

Plus he's a pretty odious toad of a man.

I'd take him, but yes he is odious compared with SJM who was a gentleman. I found this story pretty funny at the time but it says a lot about him:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40484091

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by Snowflake Royal » 30 Oct 2023 08:25

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Brogue Yep I’ve been shocked at how much hate there is towards him. Are they fcuking stupid? We ain’t getting anyone better than Ashley. We are bottom of league one ffs we should just be grateful anyone is interested at all let alone someone of that calibre

The truth is, most people on the socials don't have the first clue about football in general or the club in detail.

They've seen years of Ashley getting hate from Newcastle fans so it's just taken as read he's awful.

Plus he's a pretty odious toad of a man.

I'd take him, but yes he is odious compared with SJM who was a gentleman. I found this story pretty funny at the time but it says a lot about him:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40484091

Let's be clear, Madejski was great for the club, but he was still a tax dodging Tory pcunt.

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by YorkshireRoyal99 » 30 Oct 2023 08:27

I'd be in favour of Ashley personally. Not the most glamorous person ever, but how he ran Newcastle is exactly how we need to be run going forwards.

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by Snowflake Royal » 30 Oct 2023 08:29

Other plus side, catering revenue from beer sales would also rocket


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by Hound » 30 Oct 2023 08:29

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Brogue Yep I’ve been shocked at how much hate there is towards him. Are they fcuking stupid? We ain’t getting anyone better than Ashley. We are bottom of league one ffs we should just be grateful anyone is interested at all let alone someone of that calibre

The truth is, most people on the socials don't have the first clue about football in general or the club in detail.

They've seen years of Ashley getting hate from Newcastle fans so it's just taken as read he's awful.

Plus he's a pretty odious toad of a man.

I'd take him, but yes he is odious compared with SJM who was a gentleman. I found this story pretty funny at the time but it says a lot about him:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40484091


Actually like him a bit more after reading that

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by bcubed » 30 Oct 2023 08:38

genome If anyone wants cheering up, it's the 11th anniversary of Reading 5-7 Arsenal.


In my mind, the beginning of the downward slide.

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by Sutekh » 30 Oct 2023 08:44

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Snowflake Royal 50,000? So 8th in the PL attendance list? Big woop.

They're a middling top tier side who occasionally fall out and occasionally flirt with Europe. Nothing more.


That's pretty much how I have always seen them. The West Ham of the north if you will.


Probs, but with football these days being all about zillionaire's playing dogs pissing up the wall, I fully expect the Saudi royal family will just keep chucking silly money at them in order to get one up on the Mansoors. Just a matter of time, IMHO.


TBF though they have employed wisely in the manager, something not seen at Reading since the days of SJM - and EH deserves to win something.

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by Sutekh » 30 Oct 2023 08:50

NathStPaul So many idiotic people on Twitter moaning about Mike Ashley coming in.

"WE WANT A NEW OWNER"

"NO NOT THAT ONE"

Grow up. Mike Ashley would at a minium get things back on the straight and narrow.


Agreed. Best of the currently rumoured options by far.



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by WestYorksRoyal » 30 Oct 2023 08:56

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That's pretty much how I have always seen them. The West Ham of the north if you will.


Probs, but with football these days being all about zillionaire's playing dogs pissing up the wall, I fully expect the Saudi royal family will just keep chucking silly money at them in order to get one up on the Mansoors. Just a matter of time, IMHO.


TBF though they have employed wisely in the manager, something not seen at Reading since the days of SJM - and EH deserves to win something.

They haven't spent as much as Everton yet but are light years ahead of them.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Greatwesternline » 30 Oct 2023 08:59

Mike Ashley also founded his empire from Sport and Ski on Maidenhead high street if I'm not mistaken.

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by Stranded » 30 Oct 2023 09:02

Greatwesternline Mike Ashley also founded his empire from Sport and Ski on Maidenhead high street if I'm not mistaken.


You are not - whilst born in Walsall, grew up in Burnham (as think mentioned already on here) so a bit of a local connection, not that would matter a jot for Ashley.

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by Royalwaster » 30 Oct 2023 09:06

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Snowflake Royal The truth is, most people on the socials don't have the first clue about football in general or the club in detail.

They've seen years of Ashley getting hate from Newcastle fans so it's just taken as read he's awful.

Plus he's a pretty odious toad of a man.

I'd take him, but yes he is odious compared with SJM who was a gentleman. I found this story pretty funny at the time but it says a lot about him:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40484091

Let's be clear, Madejski was great for the club, but he was still a tax dodging Tory pcunt.


+1 ... all this stuff about Madejski being a 'gentleman' is a bit bull to me too ...


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by Hound » 30 Oct 2023 09:43

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WestYorksRoyal I'd take him, but yes he is odious compared with SJM who was a gentleman. I found this story pretty funny at the time but it says a lot about him:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40484091

Let's be clear, Madejski was great for the club, but he was still a tax dodging Tory pcunt.


+1 ... all this stuff about Madejski being a 'gentleman' is a bit bull to me too ...


Anyone rich enough to buy a club is probably a complete git somewhere along the line aren’t they?

Ashley prob no better or worse than anyone else who would have enough money knocking about to buy a football club, and that goes back to SJM’s time

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Elm Park Kid » 30 Oct 2023 10:15

Is Mike Ashley the best possible owner to return us back to the 'Reading way' and recreate the glory days? Probably not.

Is he a good option for now - definitely yes.

Maguire was on BBC Berkshire this morning saying that Ashley 'lacks ambition' - ie, he's not going to pour in vast amounts of his own money to catapult us up the leagues. Well . . . this might be controversial . . . but, good. Dai's problem was thinking he could buy success, regardless of how poorly the club was run, and then had a tantrum when it didn't work. If Ashley is thinking that with some careful management and spending he can get Reading back into the Championship on the cheap and then sell up for profit - fair enough.

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by YorkshireRoyal99 » 30 Oct 2023 10:19

Elm Park Kid Is Mike Ashley the best possible owner to return us back to the 'Reading way' and recreate the glory days? Probably not.

Is he a good option for now - definitely yes.

Maguire was on BBC Berkshire this morning saying that Ashley 'lacks ambition' - ie, he's not going to pour in vast amounts of his own money to catapult us up the leagues. Well . . . this might be controversial . . . but, good. Dai's problem was thinking he could buy success, regardless of how poorly the club was run, and then had a tantrum when it didn't work. If Ashley is thinking that with some careful management and spending he can get Reading back into the Championship on the cheap and then sell up for profit - fair enough.


I suppose it depends what he buys at in regards of making a profit. If he can run us sensibly and leave the footballing decisions to the football people at the club, and actually create a strategy at the club that is sensible, then I can certainly see things going well with him.

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by WestYorksRoyal » 30 Oct 2023 10:24

I guess the question is how he makes a profit. Let's say bare minimum is to have us mid table Championship - our club is simply too big to be a sustainable L1 club and will always have a big operating expense base with its facilities unless we see brutal cuts.

So let's say we get to the Championship and stabilise. We produce good academy players for the first team who we sell on for good money. Do you reinvest the bare minimum to protect your Championship position, and put most of the transfer revenue in your bank account? Or do you reinvest it substantially knowing that it can bring the riches of the PL, but can be lost? His record at Newcastle suggests the former, and the extent of parachute payments these days is so great he may conclude that it's not worth trying to compete with them.

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by blythspartan » 30 Oct 2023 10:25

Elm Park Kid Is Mike Ashley the best possible owner to return us back to the 'Reading way' and recreate the glory days? Probably not.

Is he a good option for now - definitely yes.

Maguire was on BBC Berkshire this morning saying that Ashley 'lacks ambition' - ie, he's not going to pour in vast amounts of his own money to catapult us up the leagues. Well . . . this might be controversial . . . but, good. Dai's problem was thinking he could buy success, regardless of how poorly the club was run, and then had a tantrum when it didn't work. If Ashley is thinking that with some careful management and spending he can get Reading back into the Championship on the cheap and then sell up for profit - fair enough.


At the moment survival is paramount for me. If Ashley can stabilise the club and pay the bills on time I’ll be happy with that.

I think with a sensible owner and a manager who knows what they’re doing we can get back into the Championship and there are lots of good examples of well managed clubs thriving. Ipswich and Luton are two that spring to mind.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Stranded » 30 Oct 2023 10:33

WestYorksRoyal I guess the question is how he makes a profit. Let's say bare minimum is to have us mid table Championship - our club is simply too big to be a sustainable L1 club and will always have a big operating expense base with its facilities unless we see brutal cuts.

So let's say we get to the Championship and stabilise. We produce good academy players for the first team who we sell on for good money. Do you reinvest the bare minimum to protect your Championship position, and put most of the transfer revenue in your bank account? Or do you reinvest it substantially knowing that it can bring the riches of the PL, but can be lost? His record at Newcastle suggests the former, and the extent of parachute payments these days is so great he may conclude that it's not worth trying to compete with them.


You make a profit by building the club up to a point where someone else will be willing to pay you more than you paid/invested or increase revenues so that dividends can be paid on shares held.

Naturally in the meantime you would make a call on what you do in the interim i.e. if we make a profit in a year, he may decide to take some back but the plan has to be (as Bowen seems to be planning on doing) bring in young players free/cheap, who we can sell on a year or two later for a decent fee. X% if that gets reinvested in the playing squad - do it right and the quality of younger player you can bring in improves, the team improves, wages improve, fees improve. Profits eventually ensue.

As said elsewhere, is Ashley going to suddenly bankroll a side capable of running through L1 and the Champ, no but we don't need that now - we just need to be run as a normal football club and see what happens. If L1 is our level for a while, so be it but with the right model, there is no reason why we can't return to the Champ in a relatively small period of time.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Elm Park Kid » 30 Oct 2023 10:37

WestYorksRoyal I guess the question is how he makes a profit. Let's say bare minimum is to have us mid table Championship - our club is simply too big to be a sustainable L1 club and will always have a big operating expense base with its facilities unless we see brutal cuts.

So let's say we get to the Championship and stabilise. We produce good academy players for the first team who we sell on for good money. Do you reinvest the bare minimum to protect your Championship position, and put most of the transfer revenue in your bank account? Or do you reinvest it substantially knowing that it can bring the riches of the PL, but can be lost? His record at Newcastle suggests the former, and the extent of parachute payments these days is so great he may conclude that it's not worth trying to compete with them.


First of all, i'd say that being a mid-table Championship club who is selling off their academy players for good money is enough of an ambition for me right now.

Second, the Championship is a league where no one is making money. No one. If Mike Ashley's business plan is to somehow be a mid-table Championship team whilst taking money out of the club then, again, fair play to him because that would require a genius level of business skills.

Thirdly, As far as i'm aware, Ashley never took any money out of Newcastle. It's a bit of a myth that Newcastle fans have maintained. In fact, i'm sure that Maguire said that he had invested over £100m during his time as owner.

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