Champions League & Europa League 2018/19

[WoodleyRoyal]

wow

[Pepe the Horseman]

Scenes.

[John Madejski's Wallet]

Fukking hell

[genome]

VAR clearing things up there

[BR0B0T]

Definite pen

[genome]

Don't get me wrong I'm delighted PSG have gone out but that is an absolutely horrendous decision

[BR0B0T]

obvs I'm biased but the only reason I can see that being given is the initial arm position before he turned

(which doesn't really change iirc)

[WoodleyRoyal]

Porto going through now too. Imagine the odds you’d of got when the draw was made, backing Ajax spurs Utd and Porto going through

[URZZZZ]

VAR is an absolute farce, first of all giving United a very iffy penalty, then giving Porto a penalty where the attacker is clearly offside, then failing to give Roma a penalty when the attacker was kicked from behind

How about refs actually do their jobs? They're paid to ref a game of football, you may as well put me as ref if anything even slightly contentious if referred to VAR. The day VAR is introduced permanently is the day an already declining sport goes deeper into turmoil. An absolute disgrace

[The Enfield Royal71]

Anybody else hoping for ajax vs porto final or just me?

Anybody?

Hello?

[WoodleyRoyal]

Would like to see a city spurs final personally

[BR0B0T]

United beating Liverpool in the final!

[Pepe the Horseman]

Solskjaer's making me like United. What a guy.

[Hoop Blah]

Don't get me wrong I'm delighted PSG have gone out but that is an absolutely horrendous decision

Very, very debatable one. I thought VAR was there to clear up any clear and obvious decisions? When you look at the replay it isn't clear and obvious. That's the shambles of it all.

I'm not a fan of VAR, and the whole clear and obvious element to it makes it just as subjective as any normal decision.

I'm guessing the clear and obvious factor in last nights call was perhaps whether or not the ref had even seen the ball hit the arm. Once VAR has been used to check that it's up to the ref to decide if it was, in his opinion, a deliberate act.

To my mind it was, so I'd have given the penalty. He's jumped to block the ball and has his arm in a position that not only could get in the way but also is making his block cover a bigger area. Some refs might not give it, but that would probably be due to the distance between the shot and the block, not the position of the hand and the attempted block.

[Duffy]

Don't get me wrong I'm delighted PSG have gone out but that is an absolutely horrendous decision

Very, very debatable one. I thought VAR was there to clear up any clear and obvious decisions? When you look at the replay it isn't clear and obvious. That's the shambles of it all.

I'm not a fan of VAR, and the whole clear and obvious element to it makes it just as subjective as any normal decision.

I'm guessing the clear and obvious factor in last nights call was perhaps whether or not the ref had even seen the ball hit the arm. Once VAR has been used to check that it's up to the ref to decide if it was, in his opinion, a deliberate act.

To my mind it was, so I'd have given the penalty. He's jumped to block the ball and has his arm in a position that not only could get in the way but also is making his block cover a bigger area. Some refs might not give it, but that would probably be due to the distance between the shot and the block, not the position of the hand and the attempted block.

The debate is split though. Even Rio Ferdinand said it wasn't a penalty. I personally can't see how it was clear and obvious. But then the only opinion that matters are the officials and the VAR team.

Pleased that United got through though so in no way is my opinion biased.

[Sanguine]

The reason VAR isn't working is that fans don't respect officials enough to consider their decision final.

[Duffy]

Last nights handball was debatable though. It wasn't clear and obvious. And as proven this season VAR has got decisions incorrect as well.

[Stranded]

Porto going through now too. Imagine the odds you’d of got when the draw was made, backing Ajax spurs Utd and Porto going through

3 out of 4 "seeds" heading out. Juve likely to join them next week with 2 other ties at 0-0. What is the highest number of group winners not to make it through the 1st knock-out round?

[Stranded]

Last nights handball was debatable though. It wasn't clear and obvious. And as proven this season VAR has got decisions incorrect as well.

VAR will never get every decision correct and it isn't designed to do so, it is there to ensure there are less mistakes. The problem is is that it only really seems to be amplfying the mistakes that are still made. The total number of mistakes could well have been halved or better but it doesn't seem that way.

[genome]

Every team with a 1st leg advantage got knocked out this week, apart from Spurs... #bottlers