Green park station/south Reading station

[Bandini]

There isn't the demand.

[Green]

Chicken and egg.

"Build it and they will come"

[Bandini]

Hadn't thought about it in that way. You make a strong point.

[Green]

When Reading buses made moves to increase the service frequency of route 17 there were those saying it would be the death of the company.

A couple of decades on and it's the busiest bus corridor in central Berkshire.

[Alexander Litvinenko]

Chicken and egg.

"Build it and they will come"

You are George Reynolds AICMFP!

[Bandini]

When Reading buses made moves to increase the service frequency of route 17 there were those saying it would be the death of the company.

A couple of decades on and it's the busiest bus corridor in central Berkshire.

Certainly hard to imagine a world without it.

But where are the imaginative planners of yesteryear to be found these days

[Deadlock]

Yep, if the cloggies can build houses in what is, essentially, the sea then at the very least we should be able to bang out a Gentle Ben/Everglades knock off. IN! for powering round Kennet Meadows in one of those giant fan powered boats.

Confused. If they're proposing to build on the field I'm thinking of (the one beside the A33 Relief Road), then the Green Park station would be further away from those houses than it is from the Mad Stad. Must be elsewhere.

[Alexander Litvinenko]

Yep, if the cloggies can build houses in what is, essentially, the sea then at the very least we should be able to bang out a Gentle Ben/Everglades knock off. IN! for powering round Kennet Meadows in one of those giant fan powered boats.

Confused. If they're proposing to build on the field I'm thinking of (the one beside the A33 Relief Road), then the Green Park station would be further away from those houses than it is from the Mad Stad. Must be elsewhere.

The whole Kennet Meadows development is for 7,500 houses, so it'll fill most of the floodplain alongside the A33. It was to be built by a number of developers, and the portion of that development to be built by Prudential was down at the Green Park end, and would be served by GP station - to be paid for by Prudential t make their houses more saleable and to overcome transport objections.

[One8Seven1]

Yep, if the cloggies can build houses in what is, essentially, the sea then at the very least we should be able to bang out a Gentle Ben/Everglades knock off. IN! for powering round Kennet Meadows in one of those giant fan powered boats.

Confused. If they're proposing to build on the field I'm thinking of (the one beside the A33 Relief Road), then the Green Park station would be further away from those houses than it is from the Mad Stad. Must be elsewhere.

The whole Kennet Meadows development is for 7,500 houses, so it'll fill most of the floodplain alongside the A33. It was to be built by a number of developers, and the portion of that development to be built by Prudential was down at the Green Park end, and would be served by GP station - to be paid for by Prudential t make their houses more saleable and to overcome transport objections.

Did they get the go-ahead to build on the floodplain in the end? That is ludicrous if so. They're just asking for trouble.

[Alexander Litvinenko]

No. I think the whole scheme is now dead in the water.

Hence no GP station.

[John Madejski's Wallet]

I thought it was ALL Prudential ?

They were certainly the ones selling us Southcote folk the idea of 20,000 homes. This got knocked back and they then came back with a proposal to leave the bit between the Holybrook & the canal and build 7500 homes south of the canal around/on the lakes.

Utterly stupid proposal as the road networks they were going to put in pace would have meant most residents getting into reading via Burghfield bridge

Flood plains are there for a reason and should be left the f#ck alone. I don't care if their 'expert' engineers reckon that raising theale reservoir by 1m will sort it..... the engineers are ALWAYS wrong when it comes to building on floodplains in this country, as it always goes wrong

[John Madejski's Wallet]

Afaik, the kennet meadows area has been left out of the government's development strategy for the South that runs until 2026, so it's probably dead until then at least

[John Madejski's Wallet]

// hatrick-grabbing NIMBY

[Green]

Flood plains are there for a reason and should be left the f#ck alone. I don't care if their 'expert' engineers reckon that raising theale reservoir by 1m will sort it..... the
engineers are ALWAYS wrong when it comes to building on floodplains in this country, as it always goes wrong

If our country was five times the size it is I'd be inclined to agree but not sure you can just condemn a load of land not fit for construction because it's a bit marshy?

New homes have to go somewhere JMW - where would you put them then? Perhaps you'd like to see some green belt tarmaced over?

[John Madejski's Wallet]

Flood plains are there for a reason and should be left the f#ck alone. I don't care if their 'expert' engineers reckon that raising theale reservoir by 1m will sort it..... the
engineers are ALWAYS wrong when it comes to building on floodplains in this country, as it always goes wrong

If our country was five times the size it is I'd be inclined to agree but not sure you can just condemn a load of land not fit for construction because it's a bit marshy?

New homes have to go somewhere JMW - where would you put them then? Perhaps you'd like to see some green belt tarmaced over?

Something wrong with where all the empty office blocks are?

For "a bit marshy" read important wetland areas.


And aside from that, it just doesn't ever go right. At some point we just need to tell these 'civil engineers' to just naff off. Or at the very least tie the companies like Pru into being liable for ALL flood damage for 50-100 years ..... wonder if they'd back their own horse then?

[Barry the bird boggler]

Common sense should tell you that flood plains are flood plains for a reason so you don't build on them. Oh but then I forgot common sense doesn't enter into planning applications.

[Green]

Land is at a premium in the South East Baz, not sure you're ever gonna find a perfect site for development.

[Barry the bird boggler]

Yes I know, shame the flood plains don't realise that

[Green]

How many times had the football stadium flooded since it's been there?

[Ralph Jolly]

Provincial public transport planners in "missing a trick" shock.

Not really. The extra revenue from the stadium will never be worth enough to make any other investment worthwhile, and I don't think it's transport planners making the decisions. Plus it's a fair old trek to the station, as shown below. ISTR it's reckoned that the only people who'd gain advantage from it are those who'd normally get a stopping train to Basingstoke - everyone else will find it quicker and easier to use the other methods of transport that already exist. That's a pretty small market.

And it's Prudential, owners of Green Park, who are paying for the station to be built, so they can sell houses in the residential development at GP.

Not station related- but does anyone know whats going to happen to the old speedway track. Is that going to be housing, offices or just left empty?