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[From Despair To Where?]

Maybe I'm out of touch with the *true" value of players but I'd expect a £12m player to at least have some top flight experience.

[muirinho]

Maybe I'm out of touch with the *true" value of players but I'd expect a £12m player to at least have some top flight experience.

Clearly we both are!

[Hampshire Royal]

There is a reason that our attendances are awful despite doing well in the league.

Yep, this town is full of glory hunting twats who would sooner head to Wembley in their droves to watch a meaningless cup final than enjoy a successful promotion campaign.

They'd sooner pay to watch a home game against Leeds that was televised and would, therefore, have been available in many local pubs if they themselves didn't have Sky Sports, than turn up the following Tuesday to watch a less glamourous match against Blackburn that couldn't be viewed elsewhere.

As your views so perfectly illustrate, many in this town view anything they lack the capacity to comprehend or appreciate as awful and uninspiring

As others have said, despite spending a small fortune Villa have been nowhere near good enough to make an impact in what has been one of the most competitive Championship seasons I can remember whereas, 4th place "boring" Reading quite clearly have despite the rabid ignorance they have been subjected to by some who see themselves as supporters.

Have no fear, should we get promoted the Mad Stad will be full to overflowing with many of the local whingers complaining they can't get a ticket.

This!!

[From Despair To Where?]

Maybe I'm out of touch with the *true" value of players but I'd expect a £12m player to at least have some top flight experience.

Clearly we both are!

In the case of Ross McCormack, by top flight experience, I don't mean a couple of seasons with Motherwell in the SPL about 10 years ago.

[WAZZOCK]

Problem is, idiots like Villa have made a mockery of what the true value of a player is.

Scott Hogan has been absolutely dogshit since he arrived at Villa Park, including yesterday. They paid £10 million for him in January, and the bi-product is the market gets altered accordingly.

[From Despair To Where?]

Personally, I think Fulham started it all by spaffing £12m on McCormack on the back of 1 decent season for Leeds. It's all fuelled by parachute money. The thing with parachute money is if you're going to spend it in that way, you've got 3 years to get it right or you're sitting on a financial time bomb.

For the money Villa spent on McCormack, Kodjia and Hogan, Newcastle bought Shelvey, Ritchie and Gayle. Newcastle got Diame for less than Villa paid for Tshibola. Different class of player completely.

No surprise Villa are farting about in mid table. They've got another summer of clearouts and rebuilding and one less year to get it right.

[Ian Royal]

Problem is, idiots like Villa have made a mockery of what the true value of a player is.

Scott Hogan has been absolutely dogshit since he arrived at Villa Park, including yesterday. They paid £10 million for him in January, and the bi-product is the market gets altered accordingly.

It's been crazy for ages. Stupid Money for McCormack, Hogan, Rhodes originally went for a hell of a lot to Blackburn iirc - though at least he's performed. Vydra. Anyone attacking Derby have bought tbh. No Championship team should be spending more than £5-6m on a single player IMO.

[genome]

Agreed. You don't need to spend that much money - it's pointless. Look at us and Huddersfield - even Leeds haven't spent that much. Us in 2005/6, 2011/12, whenever Burnley have been promoted...

The Championship is all about good scouting and building a team. And investing some money in other areas. If anything, wages usually have a correl8ion to league performance, not transfer spend

[From Despair To Where?]

Burnley did spent £9m on Andre Gray but that does seem to be the is exception for them.

[Top Flight]

Villa were just a total mess anyway.

[genome]

Transfer spend according to Transfermarkt...


According to Transfermarkt...

Aston Villa £74m
Newcastle £54m
Wolves £30m
Norwich £22m
Fulham £21m
Derby £14m
QPR £11m
Bristol City £11m
Sheffield Wednesday £9m
Birmingham £8m
Reading £7.5m
Brighton £7m
Leeds £7m
Brentford £4.5m
Huddersfield £4m
Nottingham Forest £4m
Cardiff City £3.5m
Barnsley £2m
Ipswich Town £1.5m
Wigan £1.5m
Rotherham £1m
Burton £300k
Preston £250k
Blackburn £0

[Ian Royal]

Transfer spend according to Transfermarkt...


According to Transfermarkt...

Aston Villa £74m
Newcastle £54m
Wolves £30m
Norwich £22m
Fulham £21m
Derby £14m
QPR £11m
Bristol City £11m
Sheffield Wednesday £9m
Birmingham £8m
Reading £7.5m
Brighton £7m
Leeds £7m
Brentford £4.5m
Huddersfield £4m
Nottingham Forest £4m
Cardiff City £3.5m
Barnsley £2m
Ipswich Town £1.5m
Wigan £1.5m
Rotherham £1m
Burton £300k
Preston £250k
Blackburn £0

That top 5 is utterly insane. There's a lot of lols in there.

Reading, Brighton, Leeds, Huddersfield & Wednesday all sitting in the middle of the pack - £9m - £4m and making up 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th & 7th despite the ludicrous spending from half a dozen or more clubs.

[genome]

Reading, Brighton, Leeds, Huddersfield & Wednesday all sitting in the middle of the pack - £9m - £4m

The best part is if you combine their expenditure - £34.5m - it's not even halfway to what Villa have spent by themselves

[Top Flight]

Transfer spend according to Transfermarkt...


According to Transfermarkt...

Aston Villa £74m
Newcastle £54m
Wolves £30m
Norwich £22m
Fulham £21m
Derby £14m
QPR £11m
Bristol City £11m
Sheffield Wednesday £9m
Birmingham £8m
Reading £7.5m
Brighton £7m
Leeds £7m
Brentford £4.5m
Huddersfield £4m
Nottingham Forest £4m
Cardiff City £3.5m
Barnsley £2m
Ipswich Town £1.5m
Wigan £1.5m
Rotherham £1m
Burton £300k
Preston £250k
Blackburn £0

Is that outlay on players? What about net spend? That would be even more interesting to know and compare with above.

[tidus_mi2]

Pretty sure it's just outgoing expenditure, as far as I recall, Newcastle actually made a profit due to selling their better players for high fees.

[BR0B0T]

59,550,000 net spend

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/aston-v ... a-transfer

formatting will be shite on here

Player on left purchased, player on right sold

Aston Villa
Combined Totals £488,440,000 £246,625,000 £241,815,000 1168
Players Purchased Fee Players Sold Fee Net Total PTS POS
Season 16/17
Tommy Elphick £3,000,000 José Ángel Crespo Free
Pierluigi Gollini £4,500,000 Callum Robinson Undisclosed
Aaron Tshibola £5,500,000 Brad Guzan Free
Ross McCormack £12,000,000 Idrissa Gueye £7,100,000
Mile Jedinak £4,000,000 Ciaran Clark £5,000,000
Ritchie De Laet £2,500,000 Joe Bennett Free
Jonathan Kodjia £15,000,000 Joleon Lescott Free
Albert Adomah £5,000,000 Adama Traoré Undisclosed
James Chester £9,000,000 Jordan Ayew Swap
Birkir Bjarnason £1,500,000 Ashley Westwood £5,000,000
James Bree £3,000,000
Conor Hourihane £3,000,000
Jacob Bedeau £900,000
Neil Taylor £5,000,000[1]
Henri Lansbury £2,750,000

£76,650,000 £17,100,000 £59,550,000


Season 15/16
Micah Richards Free Yacouba Sylla £1,000,000
Scott Sinclair £2,500,000 Matthew Lowton £1,000,000
Mark Bunn Unattached Andreas Weimann £2,750,000
Idrissa Gueye £9,000,000 Darren Bent Free
Jordan Amavi £9,000,000 Enda Stevens Free
Jordan Ayew £8,500,000 Graham Burke Released
José Ángel Crespo £500,000 Chris Herd Released
Rudy Gestede £7,000,000 Shay Given Free
Jordan Veretout £7,000,000 Fabian Delph £8,000,000
Adama Traoré £7,000,000 Christian Benteke £32,500,000
Joleon Lescott £2,000,000 Aleksandar Tonev Free
Matija Sarkic Undisclosed
New Manager New Manager
Joe Cole £0

[BR0B0T]

Newcastle

£55,000,000 (purchased)
-£85,300,000 (sold)
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-£30,300,000

[BR0B0T]

Norwich -4.1 Million net spend

[BR0B0T]

the figures vary wildly between sites

[Brum Royal]

Wolves are skewed by that Costa purchase for 12m, but the rumours amongst my Wolves colleagues and friends is that there's some pipeline deal in place that he will be sold in the summer for 20m and that there's some collusion going on between owners/clubs with Wolves making 8m as the "middle man". Can't remember who the 20m buying club are though.