The generic transfer thread

[Royal Rother]

Fancy a small wager of £200 or so?

I don't gamble with money anymore, kicked the habit.

I will wager a tin of biscuits of your choice/my choice though.

Not worth it for me so will put my money where my mouth is with the bookies although unfortunately they will give me worse odds than even money as they have more faith in the Super Reds than you do.

It'll be interesting to see what happens that's for sure.

Arsenal have strengthened very well I think - except up front. False No 9s are all well and good when the need arises, but every top team needs a classy / lethal finisher to become the finished article. Haevertz, Jesus and Nketiah are not not lethal finishers.

Liverpool seem to have decent riches up front, but, not sure about the midfield (yet).

As for Utd, well, can't say I'm altogether impressed by what they have added. Hojlund is no Haaland - Onana will create stuff that De Gea couldn't, but every PL team will / should be practising shots from the half-way line as I think he comes a bit too far out and will give plenty of opportunities for the 50+ yard strike.

Chelsea will be a lot better under Poch, could be a surprise package, but have a huge amount of ground to make up during what is effectively a season of transition.

Spurs are Spurs.

Surprisingly Newcastle haven't strengthened enough from what I have seen and could struggle to maintain last season's momentum.

Hardly rocket science but for me:

1 City
2 Arsenal
3 Utd
4 Chelsea
5 Liverpool
6 Newcastle
7 Spurs

[LUX]

how will BHA get on? Think they were sixth last season. They have lost some of their stars.

[NathStPaul]

They always seem to just seem to replace their stars who leave, seem to find a cheaper replacement who will do the same job. Great recruitment at Brighton.

Looking forward to seeing how Evan Ferguson does this season. Has all the potential in the world.

[Hendo]

They always seem to just seem to replace their stars who leave, seem to find a cheaper replacement who will do the same job. Great recruitment at Brighton.

Looking forward to seeing how Evan Ferguson does this season. Has all the potential in the world.

Think they'll comfortably in the top half.

Yes, keen to see how Ferguson does - got him in my FF team this year.

[Sanguine]

Spurs reject Bayern's 'final' offer for Harry Kane, so it looks like Levy is happy for him to leave for free next season.

[genome]

It's a tricky decision. Cash in now, or get a guaranteed 25-30 goals next season (especially in a more attacking Spurs side). Might be being naive but I can't see him going to Chelsea or Arsenal on a free and tarnishing his reputation like that.

[genome]

Or, the other scenario which noone seems to have considered, Spurs make progress under Postecoglou and he signs a new contract.

[NathStPaul]

It is a wise move from Levy, they need Kane this season and it is far too late in the day to replace him with anyone adequate.

[Sanguine]

It's a tricky decision. Cash in now, or get a guaranteed 25-30 goals next season (especially in a more attacking Spurs side). Might be being naive but I can't see him going to Chelsea or Arsenal on a free and tarnishing his reputation like that.

He'd go abroad on a free, shirley.

I'd love to see Spurs crash the title party, but I really can't see it. All respect to Kane if he does eventually commit essentially the rest of his useful career to Spurs.

[Hendo]

It's a tricky decision. Cash in now, or get a guaranteed 25-30 goals next season (especially in a more attacking Spurs side). Might be being naive but I can't see him going to Chelsea or Arsenal on a free and tarnishing his reputation like that.

He'd go abroad on a free, shirley.

I'd love to see Spurs crash the title party, but I really can't see it. All respect to Kane if he does eventually commit essentially the rest of his useful career to Spurs.

Think it'll be abroad or Utd. Probably less likely Utd now seeing as they've splashed the cash on a new forward.

[WestYorksRoyal]

Or, the other scenario which noone seems to have considered, Spurs make progress under Postecoglou and he signs a new contract.

Finishing 4th would be progress, but surely not enough? They would still be miles off City and consistently challenging for silverware, which is what he needs. Under Pocchetino he was young enough to buy into a long term project. Not any more.

[genome]

Or, the other scenario which noone seems to have considered, Spurs make progress under Postecoglou and he signs a new contract.

Finishing 4th would be progress, but surely not enough? They would still be miles off City and consistently challenging for silverware, which is what he needs. Under Pocchetino he was young enough to buy into a long term project. Not any more.

Considering there's no European football, there's no excuse for them to not have a good run at the cups. A cup and European football qualification while playing a good brand of football might be enough to convince him, he does love the club.

[WestYorksRoyal]

Or, the other scenario which noone seems to have considered, Spurs make progress under Postecoglou and he signs a new contract.

Finishing 4th would be progress, but surely not enough? They would still be miles off City and consistently challenging for silverware, which is what he needs. Under Pocchetino he was young enough to buy into a long term project. Not any more.

Considering there's no European football, there's no excuse for them to not have a good run at the cups. A cup and European football qualification while playing a good brand of football might be enough to convince him, he does love the club.

I guess the love of his club will have an impact. But I'd say a cup final and a top 4 finish isn't enough for a player of his standard. FA Cup win perhaps, but even then leagues and continental trophies are in play if he moves and not if he stays.

[WestYorksRoyal]

Southampton rejecting almost £50m for Lavia, to go with their rejection of £30m+ for JWP. Makes a mockery of this argument about how essential the enormous parachute payments are. See also Gnoto and James staying at Leeds all while having money in the bank to sign Ampadu.

Sell your players to manage. See Leicester with Maddison and Barnes.

[Franchise FC]

Southampton rejecting almost £50m for Lavia, to go with their rejection of £30m+ for JWP. Makes a mockery of this argument about how essential the enormous parachute payments are. See also Gnoto and James staying at Leeds all while having money in the bank to sign Ampadu.

Sell your players to manage. See Leicester with Maddison and Barnes.

Why does it make a mockery of anything ?
Maybe, in Southampton’s case they’ve not overspent in the PL and can afford to keep some players.
Turning down £80m is not the same as spending that £80m
It might be that, on the contracts those players have, it would only cost them a few million to keep them this season and that could conceivably be covered by the parachute payments

[Stranded]

Southampton rejecting almost £50m for Lavia, to go with their rejection of £30m+ for JWP. Makes a mockery of this argument about how essential the enormous parachute payments are. See also Gnoto and James staying at Leeds all while having money in the bank to sign Ampadu.

Sell your players to manage. See Leicester with Maddison and Barnes.

Why does it make a mockery of anything ?
Maybe, in Southampton’s case they’ve not overspent in the PL and can afford to keep some players.
Turning down £80m is not the same as spending that £80m
It might be that, on the contracts those players have, it would only cost them a few million to keep them this season and that could conceivably be covered by the parachute payments

Its not a mockery but it highlights the absurdity of them - a team gets relegated, is given X million more than a side who has been in the Champ for a few years - meaning they can afford to absorb larger contracts of individuals who are too good for the division - the fact that 1 club can afford to turn down 80m, probably in part because the parachute means they can afford to keep the players adds to the disparity that can be seen at the top end of the Champ at times.

[LUX]

surely the player will want to go and this might affect his performances. He'd be getting far more money and great exposure in the Premiership (assuming he gets selected I guess).

[WestYorksRoyal]

Southampton rejecting almost £50m for Lavia, to go with their rejection of £30m+ for JWP. Makes a mockery of this argument about how essential the enormous parachute payments are. See also Gnoto and James staying at Leeds all while having money in the bank to sign Ampadu.

Sell your players to manage. See Leicester with Maddison and Barnes.

Why does it make a mockery of anything ?
Maybe, in Southampton’s case they’ve not overspent in the PL and can afford to keep some players.
Turning down £80m is not the same as spending that £80m
It might be that, on the contracts those players have, it would only cost them a few million to keep them this season and that could conceivably be covered by the parachute payments

Clubs should be sensible anyhow. Those with responsible finances should need to sell 1 or 2 to manage the transition, and those who are reckless should be facing a firesale.

But as it is, they are promised at least £40m a season which effectively subsidises PL players in the Championship

[Sutekh]

Southampton rejecting almost £50m for Lavia, to go with their rejection of £30m+ for JWP. Makes a mockery of this argument about how essential the enormous parachute payments are. See also Gnoto and James staying at Leeds all while having money in the bank to sign Ampadu.

Sell your players to manage. See Leicester with Maddison and Barnes.

Why does it make a mockery of anything ?
Maybe, in Southampton’s case they’ve not overspent in the PL and can afford to keep some players.
Turning down £80m is not the same as spending that £80m
It might be that, on the contracts those players have, it would only cost them a few million to keep them this season and that could conceivably be covered by the parachute payments

Clubs should be sensible anyhow. Those with responsible finances should need to sell 1 or 2 to manage the transition, and those who are reckless should be facing a firesale.

But as it is, they are promised at least £40m a season which effectively subsidises PL players in the Championship

Clubs being sensible good luck with that one.

[Winston Biscuit]

Livramento goes to Newcastle for £40M