Richardson out

[Armadillo Roadkill]

Ridiculous thread. Puts me off reading this forum. Makes us look like a tinpot club asking for their manager to be sacked because 'I don't like his personality' when sat just outside the play-offs. We're in League 1 not the f****g Premier League - we hardly had attractive football last time we were here.

Agreed. It's absurd. We were 19th, we're now on the edges of the play-offs. It just sounds like grandiose entitlement to demand a manager to be removed when the results are so clearly moving in the right direction (overall: obviously the last two games have been pretty dire).

[morganb]

Ridiculous thread. Puts me off reading this forum. Makes us look like a tinpot club asking for their manager to be sacked because 'I don't like his personality' when sat just outside the play-offs. We're in League 1 not the f****g Premier League - we hardly had attractive football last time we were here.

Agreed. It's absurd. We were 19th, we're now on the edges of the play-offs. It just sounds like grandiose entitlement to demand a manager to be removed when the results are so clearly moving in the right direction (overall: obviously the last two games have been pretty dire).

I get the fact that we've climbed the table since Richardson was appointed and perhaps if it was just the last two games then we wouldn't be at the calling for his head stage already.

Unfortunately this has been going on since Luton in mid-December so for two months he seems to have been unable to change the way we repetitively go ahead, get pegged back (sometimes throwing away a one goal lead, sometimes two) then occasionally we get a winner else we frantically cling on for a draw.

We are throwing away points. Yes, we're on the edge of the play- offs but if we'd hung on for wins rather than draws we'd be safely inside them by now.

Perhaps we shouldn't be asking for him to be removed but equally we need to feed back to him that we are unhappy with the style of play and more importantly the way points are being squandered.

The players need to be told too. How can supporters get this message across? Booing. Banging of seats. Walking out. It's not like we can send the Club a strongly worded email stating our displeasure (or perhaps we can?)

[West F]

Whether you like him as a person or not is irrelevant. Couhig stated as an item of record that he told Richardson that he was his choice to be manager when his take over was completed. This was back in November ‘24. I dare say that this belief in Richardson extends to the rest of the Accrington boot room, which Jacobson was part of.
The issue that Couhig had with making this appointment was the subsequent appointment of Noel and his comparative success last season in narrowly missing out on the play offs. For a new owner to come in and sack Noel off the back of that season would be very high risk. Especially at a time where season ticket sales were the priority. Better to put the handbrake on as far as signing players goes and allow the club to struggle before getting the first chorus of “sacked in the morning” from a section of the 1871.
The subsequent speed of Richardson’s appointment and the fact that he had not taken employment in the interim period shows that his entire back room team was already primed and ready to take over. Richardson is Jacobson’s choice for manager. He is therefore Couhig’s choice of manager. This is why Couhig has backed him in his first window in a way Noel could only have dreamt of. He cannot allow Richardson to fail, as this reflects on his own judgement.
Yes, I agree that the football we are playing is agricultural most of the time. But, given that his appointment was made while we were in a relegation fight, I will accept that in exchange for points. While many look at the play offs as a target. The more pragmatic have been looking at the distance between us and the bottom four.
He deserves a year in charge and at least two windows to show an improvement to the point where we are challenging automatic promotion not just the play offs. The biggest differences between Noel and Richardson are, a more solid defence, which is the base to build from, and a match fit Marriot. Who I imagine was OK’d by Richardson before we signed him.

[jonnyroyal1871]

I have genuine concerns. All media responsibilities accounted for, his interview on Saturday was verging on bizarre. PV aren't a wounded animal - that's laughable. They're a poor side coasting into the inevitable hinterland of Harrogate away.

I can't remember a manager talk such a lot of rubbish when in such a good position. He's been backed, he has Marriott, and a squad full of borderline L1/champ players. He won't learn, and in that respect suffers with a bit of the Amorim's.

Faffing with the defence, is 'unusual' the constant re-setting at full back is asking for trouble. 5k per week pro's should be able to see 90 minutes out. The constant reliance on KE as the 2nd half 'out' it'll be Keane when he's fit, also doesn't work. That one forward is isolated. Why hasn't Patton been recalled? We have to be better than allowing moderate teams to constantly come at us for 60/70 minutes. On first half appearances only, we'd be 3rd. On 2nd half alone - near relegation. That is LRs job. His faulty, his responsibility.

I'm not LR out - but I will say this, if he did leave, I wouldn't be upset in the least. So he's in that dreaded position of me being 'meh'

And for those who asked Brogue to just say if he didn't like LR, I'm afraid from what I've seen and heard, I'm not fussed about him personally either.

[Hound]

I don’t really see him as dislikeable, seems alright to me. Don’t think he’s amazing but don’t see him as offensive either. Seen far worse

Main failing with the style of play me is just most of our forwards are so unsuitable for it. Just lose every header seem to be on a hiding to nothing most of the time

I’ve criticised Doyle, Lane and Ritchie myself, but surely they want the ball to feet and would suit a possesion game? They must be getting pretty frustrated

Maybe it’ll suit Keane better when fit, possibly Young as well. Things may improve a bit if that happens

[leon]

I don’t really see him as dislikeable, seems alright to me. Don’t think he’s amazing but don’t see him as offensive either. Seen far worse

Main failing with the style of play me is just most of our forwards are so unsuitable for it. Just lose every header seem to be on a hiding to nothing most of the time

I’ve criticised Doyle, Lane and Ritchie myself, but surely they want the ball to feet and would suit a possesion game? They must be getting pretty frustrated

Maybe it’ll suit Keane better when fit, possibly Young as well. Things may improve a bit if that happens

Yeah Ince, Adkins and Clarke were all far more obnoxious than LR. Paul Clement was astoundingly bad at not convincing me he was educationally subnormal.

[stealthpapes]

I don’t really see him as dislikeable, seems alright to me. Don’t think he’s amazing but don’t see him as offensive either. Seen far worse

Main failing with the style of play me is just most of our forwards are so unsuitable for it. Just lose every header seem to be on a hiding to nothing most of the time

I’ve criticised Doyle, Lane and Ritchie myself, but surely they want the ball to feet and would suit a possesion game? They must be getting pretty frustrated

Maybe it’ll suit Keane better when fit, possibly Young as well. Things may improve a bit if that happens

Yeah Ince, Adkins and Clarke were all far more obnoxious than LR. Paul Clement was astoundingly bad at not convincing me he was educationally subnormal.

The best thing about Paul Clement is that sometimes I completely forget he was our manager.

I wonder what he's up to now?

Assistant manager of the Brazil team.

[Snowflake Royal]

I don't ever bother listening to the managers any more because they get asked the same shit questions every game and give the same boring answers.

And it's almost always the same from the fans too...
New manager - oo isn’t he fresh and interesting, telling it how it is...

...Few poor results later...

This manager just talks in cliches, has nothing interesting to say and watches a different game, it's just excuses.

Rinse repeat ad infinitum, occasionally without the first bit.

[Hound]

I don't ever bother listening to the managers any more because they get asked the same shit questions every game and give the same boring answers.

And it's almost always the same from the fans too...
New manager - oo isn’t he fresh and interesting, telling it how it is...

...Few poor results later...

This manager just talks in cliches, has nothing interesting to say and watches a different game, it's just excuses.

Rinse repeat ad infinitum, occasionally without the first bit.

Yep - and they’re interviewed straight after the match when emotions are high and probably trying their best not to say something reflective of this or what will come back to bite them - so resort to cliche

I mean I suspect he was more pissed off than anyone at the end of the last two games

[Snowflake Royal]

I don't ever bother listening to the managers any more because they get asked the same shit questions every game and give the same boring answers.

And it's almost always the same from the fans too...
New manager - oo isn’t he fresh and interesting, telling it how it is...

...Few poor results later...

This manager just talks in cliches, has nothing interesting to say and watches a different game, it's just excuses.

Rinse repeat ad infinitum, occasionally without the first bit.

Yep - and they’re interviewed straight after the match when emotions are high and probably trying their best not to say something reflective of this or what will come back to bite them - so resort to cliche

I mean I suspect he was more pissed off than anyone at the end of the last two games

Yep.

Fact is he's there representing RFC, if he's saying anything too detailed or critical of the players or coaching staff he's probably not doing it right. You don’t air your dirty laundry in public.

[leon]

I don’t really see him as dislikeable, seems alright to me. Don’t think he’s amazing but don’t see him as offensive either. Seen far worse

Main failing with the style of play me is just most of our forwards are so unsuitable for it. Just lose every header seem to be on a hiding to nothing most of the time

I’ve criticised Doyle, Lane and Ritchie myself, but surely they want the ball to feet and would suit a possesion game? They must be getting pretty frustrated

Maybe it’ll suit Keane better when fit, possibly Young as well. Things may improve a bit if that happens

Yeah Ince, Adkins and Clarke were all far more obnoxious than LR. Paul Clement was astoundingly bad at not convincing me he was educationally subnormal.

The best thing about Paul Clement is that sometimes I completely forget he was our manager.

I wonder what he's up to now?

Assistant manager of the Brazil team.

christ on a bike

[stealthpapes]

Brazil's christ on a hill, m8

[MR. CYNICAL]

Ridiculous thread. Puts me off reading this forum. Makes us look like a tinpot club asking for their manager to be sacked because 'I don't like his personality' when sat just outside the play-offs. We're in League 1 not the f****g Premier League - we hardly had attractive football last time we were here.

Don't read it then. Everyone is entitled to their opinion if they pay their money to go to games just like you are.
Assume you actually attend games so if you're happy to watch us park the bus in the second half if we are a goal up and clap the team off at the end of the game, regardless of the outcome then fair play to you, if others are not happy and criticise the team/ management, then they are equally entitled to voice their discontent. just accept that's how it is.

[traff]

In fairness a number of these players have not played at PortVale, well not in the rain. Have faith Peam Guardiola will lead us to the promised land.

[Extended-Phenotype]

The problem with football is that, like it or not, a club has to prioritise results. Not glorious results, the kind of 3 points you grab fearlessly by taking risks and pushing for. But the safe points you pick up and try to hold onto, to get you through periods of turmoil, rebuilding or transition. I guess the priority is survival, normalcy and gentle progress, with adventure part of the long term vision.

This is year one of a new Reading. It’s not pretty, but perhaps prettiness is next year. There will be few who feel we are doing enough, but there is a boring yet rational argument for being cautious.

We were a club in financial crisis; those problems have lessened but likely haven’t evaporated. You don’t fix problems like that in a matter of months. We have had a total overhaul of the team. Not every signing has worked out, but we have some decent pieces of the puzzle in place. We have a new manager, who is also learning and trying to figure things out, no doubt with caution in mind. Results have been decent, even if performances haven’t been, and the fact we have gone from worrying about relegation to being disappointed with not breaking into the playoff spots is kinda telling of improvement in terms of what we think our club is capable of doing.

The trick is to look a little longer term. I think we’d do well to think about the plan of the club and align ourselves a little better with that; we are only going to be disappointed and frustrated if we expect to see our club run before it has walked. I just don’t think anyone at the club really had playoffs in mind this season - maybe as a bonus, but not as a target. It might be fairer to have loftier expectations next season, but patience should really be our default for this one. We might have to sit through a forgettable season as a foundation for something better.

I think LR is a strange character. I don’t warm to him. And that doesn’t help. But honestly, I don’t want us to kneejerk into yet another manager and reset. Unless we start tumbling down the table and run the risk of relegation, I think we have to hope given time we can grow into performances from decent results. And if that comes next season, given where we were, that’s fine by me.

[tidus_mi2]

In fairness a number of these players have not played at PortVale, well not in the rain. Have faith Peam Guardiola will lead us to the promised land.

I mean, the saying has always been, can they do it in a cold, wet night in Stoke, not the night, but near Stoke and certainly cold and wet.

[MartinRdg]

The problem with football is that, like it or not, a club has to prioritise results. Not glorious results, the kind of 3 points you grab fearlessly by taking risks and pushing for. But the safe points you pick up and try to hold onto, to get you through periods of turmoil, rebuilding or transition. I guess the priority is survival, normalcy and gentle progress, with adventure part of the long term vision.

This is year one of a new Reading. It’s not pretty, but perhaps prettiness is next year. There will be few who feel we are doing enough, but there is a boring yet rational argument for being cautious.

We were a club in financial crisis; those problems have lessened but likely haven’t evaporated. You don’t fix problems like that in a matter of months. We have had a total overhaul of the team. Not every signing has worked out, but we have some decent pieces of the puzzle in place. We have a new manager, who is also learning and trying to figure things out, no doubt with caution in mind. Results have been decent, even if performances haven’t been, and the fact we have gone from worrying about relegation to being disappointed with not breaking into the playoff spots is kinda telling of improvement in terms of what we think our club is capable of doing.

The trick is to look a little longer term. I think we’d do well to think about the plan of the club and align ourselves a little better with that; we are only going to be disappointed and frustrated if we expect to see our club run before it has walked. I just don’t think anyone at the club really had playoffs in mind this season - maybe as a bonus, but not as a target. It might be fairer to have loftier expectations next season, but patience should really be our default for this one. We might have to sit through a forgettable season as a foundation for something better.

I think LR is a strange character. I don’t warm to him. And that doesn’t help. But honestly, I don’t want us to kneejerk into yet another manager and reset. Unless we start tumbling down the table and run the risk of relegation, I think we have to hope given time we can grow into performances from decent results. And if that comes next season, given where we were, that’s fine by me.

Well said - agree with your thoughts.