We created a bit more today but yet another defeat. I honestly think we’re going down this season and it’s been coming for a while now.

Much to like but another defeat. We're just not tough to beat. I'm now confident we're going down. Points deduction on the way and no more wins this season. All doom amd gloom.

Play that shape and intensity against Hull and we have a good chance of picking up 3 points. Although we need more pace at the back and actual fullbacks.

Abrefa, Holmes, Mbengue, NGW
..............McIntyre, Casadei

Should do the trick.

How many games has he got then? 2 defeats in the next 2 & he should be gone

It’s all so demoralising every game every week another defeat. Just can’t see how it will ever change. We have owners who never watch us play. A proven failure of a manager and a team of has beens, dwindling crowds. I really can’t think of any reason why I should bother going on Saturday.

Calamitous defensive errors.

Only leaving one back in the second minute was so poor, then in the build up to the equaliser we gifted possession time and again. Loum and Sarr were particularly at fault. TInce didn't seem his usual self, I thought everyone else was good.

Dropping down is the only way to reset this club, staying in the championship means a good few more seasons watching shit like this till we somehow rebuild a decent squad.
No more 30+ past their best players, no more loanees that don't give a shit about the club.
Start again.

Attendances still about 500 up on last season.

Casadei did well. Played ok going forward but that defence….it’s a mess and constantly looks like conceding

Loum a clown after a very good game. Idiot. Sums him up

Decent watch at least but yeah we need to find a win and soon

Dropping down is the only way to reset this club, staying in the championship means a good few more seasons watching shit like this till we somehow rebuild a decent squad.
No more 30+ past their best players, no more loanees that don't give a shit about the club.
Start again.
Strongly disagree.

Dropping down is the only way to reset this club, staying in the championship means a good few more seasons watching shit like this till we somehow rebuild a decent squad.
No more 30+ past their best players, no more loanees that don't give a shit about the club.
Start again.
Strongly disagree.
I strongly disagree with your disagreement

Dropping down is the only way to reset this club, staying in the championship means a good few more seasons watching shit like this till we somehow rebuild a decent squad.
No more 30+ past their best players, no more loanees that don't give a shit about the club.
Start again.
Strongly disagree.

Yeah no benefit at all to going down

Dropping down is the only way to reset this club, staying in the championship means a good few more seasons watching shit like this till we somehow rebuild a decent squad.
No more 30+ past their best players, no more loanees that don't give a shit about the club.
Start again.
Strongly disagree.

Me too. Would be disastrous for the club and League 1 is littered with 'big' clubs who have been unable to find their way back out. It would also cost a lot of non-playing staff their jobs. So give P Ince his P45 before they end up getting theirs!

While I don't think going down would be beneficial in the slightest and not the reset some will think it is, with all the high earners off the books, it shouldn't be the death sentence it might have been the past couple of seasons.

Dropping down is the only way to reset this club, staying in the championship means a good few more seasons watching shit like this till we somehow rebuild a decent squad.
No more 30+ past their best players, no more loanees that don't give a shit about the club.
Start again.

Go down and I see us potentially being relegated again, especially if Dai walks

Strongly disagree.

Me too. Would be disastrous for the club and League 1 is littered with 'big' clubs who have been unable to find their way back out. It would also cost a lot of non-playing staff their jobs. So give P Ince his P45 before they end up getting theirs!

And lose them their jobs anyway by having even more points deducted, which would definitely relegate us.

Sod off back to twitter.

Actually though we were okay tonight no lumping it, played some decent stuff, but another defeat, we have some easier games (on paper) coming up now.

Dropping down is the only way to reset this club, staying in the championship means a good few more seasons watching shit like this till we somehow rebuild a decent squad.
No more 30+ past their best players, no more loanees that don't give a shit about the club.
Start again.
Strongly disagree.

How many more seasons (as a season ticket holder) do you want to watch this standard of football from Reading.
It's going to be at least two more until we are competitive in the division, in that time we will probably go through two more shit managers and watch anyone decent from the academy be picked off by bigger clubs starting with Femi Azeez and Tom Holmes..
Enough is enough we cannot keep starting the season with half the side on frees or on loan, it has to stop.
Officially bored of the championship now, shit football, shittier Ref's.

Strongly disagree.

Me too. Would be disastrous for the club and League 1 is littered with 'big' clubs who have been unable to find their way back out. It would also cost a lot of non-playing staff their jobs. So give P Ince his P45 before they end up getting theirs!
I just want to rock up and see Reading play attractive attacking football for the price of my season ticket, the level is immaterial as long as the football is good to watch and we win more than we lose.
This version of Reading is turgid and out of it's depth in the championship.
I have a mate who is a season ticket holder at Wycombe, goes to every home game fully expecting a win or at least a good game of football.
When was the last time any one of us when to the SCLS as it's sadly now known expecting either of those two outcomes ?

The team are in real trouble. The players need the supporters to back them to get them over the line. It’s turgid, it’s depressing, but as a supporter we all need to step up, play our part and get those 4 wins required to stay up!

Me too. Would be disastrous for the club and League 1 is littered with 'big' clubs who have been unable to find their way back out. It would also cost a lot of non-playing staff their jobs. So give P Ince his P45 before they end up getting theirs!

And lose them their jobs anyway by having even more points deducted, which would definitely relegate us.

Sod off back to twitter.

Ignoring your insult, the reasoning behind your claim?

Pretty sure he can be removed without falling foul of FFP.

And if not, he could still be removed from first team affairs with very little realistic legal recourse, provided we continue to pay his monthly salary (which is already accounted for under the FFP restrictions) .

Listening to those who know something about professional football clubs would suggest that the majority feel it would be a disaster for the club were we to be relegated.

Ince is taking us in one direction only and in exactly the same manner that he did with Blackpool.

Me too. Would be disastrous for the club and League 1 is littered with 'big' clubs who have been unable to find their way back out. It would also cost a lot of non-playing staff their jobs. So give P Ince his P45 before they end up getting theirs!
I just want to rock up and see Reading play attractive attacking football for the price of my season ticket, the level is immaterial as long as the football is good to watch and we win more than we lose.
This version of Reading is turgid and out of it's depth in the championship.
I have a mate who is a season ticket holder at Wycombe, goes to every home game fully expecting a win or at least a good game of football.
When was the last time any one of us when to the SCLS as it's sadly now known expecting either of those two outcomes ?
Considering that we'll still have to rebuild from a very small squad in the summer, with even less money to spend on rebuilding than now, and even more incentive for our better players to leave, the assumption that we'd be going for promotion doesn't seem all that realistic. We'll probably still have a transfer embargo.

The big plus in going down would be a load of much better away trips, but being a bit crap in League One isn't going to be a huge upgrade on being crap in the championship. And watching home games in front of about 8000 at our place is horrible.

Exactly. I don't get why fans think we'll be guaranteed to be up there in league one. We'd probably be midtable

Thanks mate, been out, You ?

I just want to rock up and see Reading play attractive attacking football for the price of my season ticket, the level is immaterial as long as the football is good to watch and we win more than we lose.
This version of Reading is turgid and out of it's depth in the championship.
I have a mate who is a season ticket holder at Wycombe, goes to every home game fully expecting a win or at least a good game of football.
When was the last time any one of us when to the SCLS as it's sadly now known expecting either of those two outcomes ?
Considering that we'll still have to rebuild from a very small squad in the summer, with even less money to spend on rebuilding than now, and even more incentive for our better players to leave, the assumption that we'd be going for promotion doesn't seem all that realistic. We'll probably still have a transfer embargo.

The big plus in going down would be a load of much better away trips, but being a bit crap in League One isn't going to be a huge upgrade on being crap in the championship. And watching home games in front of about 8000 at our place is horrible.

We had better than that in L1

The team are in real trouble. The players need the supporters to back them to get them over the line. It’s turgid, it’s depressing, but as a supporter we all need to step up, play our part and get those 4 wins required to stay up!

I will be there and I will get behind the team I always do just all so depressing right now.

Considering that we'll still have to rebuild from a very small squad in the summer, with even less money to spend on rebuilding than now, and even more incentive for our better players to leave, the assumption that we'd be going for promotion doesn't seem all that realistic. We'll probably still have a transfer embargo.

The big plus in going down would be a load of much better away trips, but being a bit crap in League One isn't going to be a huge upgrade on being crap in the championship. And watching home games in front of about 8000 at our place is horrible.

We had better than that in L1


Actually overall attendances in division 3 were pretty much on a par with the overall attendances last season so it would seem the club don’t really get any more through the turnstiles for being successful at a lower level than they do for being cr@p in the division above and I think I’d rather be cr@p in the division above.

And is it really better going to Accrington season after season than going to Preston or trading QPR for Portsmouth?

Yeah I'd much rather be playing a division above. I don't want to be playing categorically worse teams with no guarantee of any sort of success.

I thought we were unlucky last night. It's mistakes for goals again and transition which seems to be killing us. People want us to try and play with the ball more, but in our last 3 games we've conceded 3 goals from giving the ball away in bad areas/getting beaten on transitions and ultimately it's why we've lost those games as well.

Definitely some more winnable fixtures in our last 9 bar Burnley. If we can perform and stay in games like we have in recent games, a bit more quality in the final third (which we might get against lower quality sides) and we will pick up points.

Strongly disagree.

Yeah no benefit at all to going down
How about winning more games, playing more attractive football, finishing higher in the table, attracting back fans and rebuilding a culture of positivity and winning rather than toxic failure?

And seeing more of the Academy talent at a level they have more chance of excelling?

Loads of benefits.